Catholic Education Is A Must

[Don John of Austria]

I will have to comment on Catholic Education in a bit as I have to go for now, but I will say this, if the Catholic schools in your area are Junk then it is Your Fault, If you and yours allow Heresy to be taught in your schools and simply withdraw to your home then you are falling down in your Catholic duty to your Children and to all the Children in the Community of the Church who attend that School.

[popestpiusx]

[quote name='Don John of Austria' date='Jul 31 2004, 01:58 PM'] I will have to comment on Catholic Education in a bit as I have to go for now, but I will say this, if the Catholic schools in your area are Junk then it is Your Fault, If you and yours allow Heresy to be taught in your schools and simply withdraw to your home then you are falling down in your Catholic duty to your Children and to all the Children in the Community of the Church who attend that School. [/quote]
One can only do so much and I am not about to subject my children to the carp they teach in Catholic schools now.

[mom25angels]

Dear Don john,
I wasn't commenting on your use of capitalization in so far as it being gramatically incorrect. What I meant was that you were capitalizing to show emphasis. One of the biggest problems people have with homeschooling is that they think our kids grow up to be social misfits who can't carry on a conversation.
That is why I commented on your use of capitalization. I don't grade anyone else's use of grammer , only my own kid's
As far as many parts of the world working as a classroom, I respectfully disagree. Yes you may wait in line at the Social Security office as an adult, but I'm almost sure that most adults could figure out how to do it even if they didn't have to as children. Tours at museums, well, we have been on those and the kids have managed pretty well. In fact the last time we took a tour the guide did nothing but comment on how well behaved our kids were. It wasn't social time for them, they were there to learn.
As to homschooling children being more capable in some areas in others I would agree wholeheartedly with you. I would also say that my dd when I pulled her out of school was definetly behind in math but ahead in reading and language arts. I think this is a common occurence in schools as well as homeschools. I myself don't know my times tables very well and I was never educated at home.
The forty families in my homeschooling group all educate their children at home. Our homeschooling group is a support group. The children do meet at activities and on field trips but it is not a co-op.

Now as far as our local Catholic schools and their problems being my fault, it just isn't so. I did not take my daughter out of catholic school because they were teaching heresy. They weren't and they aren't. In fact the school has a wonderfull DRE and pastor. The school has it's problems but heresy is certainly not one of them. I do know families in other diocese who have decided to homeschool because of this and I would support them in doing so. They tried to affect change and could not. I removed my daughter from school and decided to keep my others home because the school and parents was not adequately educating her or her calssmates on how to LIVE their faith, how to be accountable for their actions or how to behave in a Christian way. Educating my children, the children God has entrusted to me and given me the authority to educate, is of the utmost importance. It is the most important task, aside from living a holy marriage, that God has commanded me to fullfill. I must do the very best for my children. Taking them out of a school that is endangering their soul is required of me by God and His Church. I have not abandoned Catholic education. I am providing the best Catholic education I can to my childen and to any child who walks through my door. I also coordinate VBS for our parish and our school. I am in no way turning my back on Catholic schools.
I have chosen to homeschool my children with the full approval of my pastor and my spiritual director. I am fullfilling my duty as a mother and as a Catholic.
Catholic education at home is more about living a Catholic way of life than bashing or abandoning parish schools. In order for my children to learn to be Catholics they must live like a Catholics.

PAX,
Sarah

[PedroX]

Mom25,

I appreciate your points, and I certainly support your right to educate your children as you see fit. However, I think you proved Don's point (somehow I always end up sticking up for Don)

You pulled your kids out of Catholic school because you were unhappy with the way they were teaching (or not teaching) the faith. It may not have been heresy, but it was apparently sloppy application. Did you take steps to affect change? I'm not accusing you (or anybody else), but I have to say I see Don's point on this. Too often, we cry foul and remove ourselves from the situation. It is analagous to the suburbs. Don't like the way life in the city is going? Well, move on out. When do we stay, and act as agents of redemption? In some ways, this is what the members of SSPX (some of whom I'm proud to call friend) are doing.

Just some random late nite thoughts.

peace...

[mom25angels]

Well PedroX, I sure did and in fact in a way still do by staying active in our parish and through VBS. Our pastor has tried too. It's very difficult to affect the change of heart of parent's and teacher's within a school. Don't get me wrong there are some fine teacher's but there are others who don't have the vocation to teach in a Cathlc school(or any school really). I pray daily for Catholic education and educators. But to tell you the truth if tomorrow I woke up and there was a perfect school available I don' think I would send my kids to it. I see the immense benefits to homeschooling and to our family life and I won't want to change it. I really like my kids. I like sharing our faith all day; during history, math, science and whatever other subjects we are tackling in our day. I know this is what God is calling us to do in our family because He wouldn't stop asking me to do it untill I did.

I do like Fr.Hardon's quote. He says "Homeschooling in the United States is the neccessary concomitant of a culture in which the Church is being opposed on every level of her existence;and as a consequence, given the widespread secularization in our country, Home Schooling is not only valuable or usefull, in my judgement, Home Schooling is absolutely necessary for the survival of the Catholic Church in our country."

[Archbishop 10-K]

I've gone to public school my entire life, and I'm a junior in high school now. While I'd send my future kids (if I don't become a priest) to Catholic school, my public school experience has actually been useful for me. I'm actually the only serious Catholic I know at my high school. Because of the challenge, I got interested in apologetics and study and defense of the faith. My private study has probably been fuller than any Catholic school education. At Catholic school, you'd probably take the faith for granted and maybe give it up when you go to college.

Now, if I had a choice to go to Catholic school next year, I would refuse because I'm afraid that if I'm not being a "good Catholic" at my public school, then I'd lose potential converts. Also, the anti-Catholicism (which is absolutely rampant) would go unchecked.

Thoughts on this experience?

[mom25angels]

[quote name='Archbishop 10-K' date='Aug 1 2004, 05:46 AM']

Thoughts on this experience? [/quote]
I think that it is wonderfull that you've stepped up to the challenge of our Catholic Faith!! But you said yourself that you're the only serious Catholic that you know at your school. You are an exception to the rule!

[Rocco]

While Catholic schools seem to have their hearts in the right place their are some problems that come up. For example, the fact that non-catholics are allowed in catholic schools. While i believe that as catholics we should reach out the those who are non catholic. i think that by allowing them to be educated along with our young catholics we are not helping our young people foster their vocations. Also, i think that by having non-catholic teachers teach catholic students is asking for trouble. How can we trust our children to learn their faith the way that they are supposed to from someone who doesnt know our religion to begine with. In highschools around here it is the catholic school kids that people want to party with because they have the best parties. This should not be the case the catholic school kids should be the most holy and most unlikely to commit crimes.

Rocco

[MagiDragon]

[quote name='Rocco' date='Aug 2 2004, 10:39 AM']In highschools around here it is the catholic school kids that people want to party with because they have the best parties.  This should not be the case the catholic school kids should be the most holy and most unlikely to commit crimes.

Rocco[/quote]
Hey! Luers isn't that bad!!!























. . . ummmm . . . ok, maybe it is . . . but there are still a fair number of good people that go there . . .

oh, Andrew, the Opus Dei meeting for tomorrow may be off, i'll let yah know . . .

Peace,
Joe

[Rocco]

Yeah ok

Rocco