For You Harry Potter Fans

[mmmerf]

Ahem. Sorry.

[p0lar_bear]

[quote name='marielapin' date='Jul 28 2004, 11:09 AM'] That's one big mistake!!! What a let down! [/quote]
Another letdown....the reference to Mark Evans in book five was rather accidental. Everyone has been speculating on who he is because Lily's maiden name was Evans...apparently she just chose Evans because it was a common name (like Smith), not intending to make a connection with Lily...

[marielapin]

[quote name='p0lar_bear' date='Jul 28 2004, 11:46 AM'] Another letdown....the reference to Mark Evans in book five was rather accidental. Everyone has been speculating on who he is because Lily's maiden name was Evans...apparently she just chose Evans because it was a common name (like Smith), not intending to make a connection with Lily... [/quote]
She needs to get some better editors. I'm actually pretty mad about the Lily thing being a mistake....I was so excited to find out why it was backwards.

[p0lar_bear]

Actually, the mistake with the order was due to a very good but perhaps overzealous editor for the US edition. JK originally had the right order but the editor thought it was wrong and changed it. She trusted him and didn't really scrutinize the change....

It only happened in the first edition in the US, everyone else got it the right way.

[Lil Red]

[b]Rumors that Have Been Put to Rest[/b]
• There will be no character named "Icicle," and JK said that she didn't recall saying there ever would be.
• Dumbledore is not a relative of Harry
• Harry is not related to Voldemort and he is not related to Salazar Slytherin.
• Lily Potter is not alive.
• Lily was not a death eater
• No prequel books are planned (no books before Harry's time at Hogwarts)
• Crookshanks is not an Animagus
• Neville is not the son of Peter Pettigrew (where do these people come up with this stuff?!)
• Remus Lupin does not have a twin brother.
• The next book with not be called "Harry Potter and the Green Flame Torch" or "Harry Potter and the Mountain of Fantasy"
• JK does not have any parts in the films
• Harry Potter will not be the new Minister of Magic


[b]General Facts Not Disclosed in the Books[/b]
•Prefects can take points, Ron got it wrong in OotP, which makes him a pretty poor prefect eh?
• Fred and George Weasley were born on April Fool's day (no joke).
• Ginny Weasley's first name is Ginevra and she is the first female Weasley born for "several generations," says JK.
•Arthor Weasley has 2 brothers.
• Molly Weasley's maiden name is Prewett.
• Crookshakes is half Kneazle.
• The infamous Weasley cousin who was cut from the books was called Mafalda. She was in Slytherin.
• Dean Thomas's father was killed by Death Eaters when he refused to join them. Neither Dean nor his mother know this.
• Dean Thomas's was called Gary in the first drafts of the Philosopher's Stone
• Harry's middle name is "James."
• Hagrid, Lily, and James were in Gryffindor. (Hagrid was NOT in Hufflepuff.)
• Lily Potter's maiden name was Evans.
• There are about a thousand students at Hogwarts. (True, that doesn't seem right, but J.K. said so, and she's the boss.)
• James Potter was a Chaser on the Gryffindor Quidditch team. (They said he was a Chaser in the books, Seeker in the movie.)
• Hermione's birthday is September 19th, Ron's is March 1st.
• James Potter inherited lots of money, so he didn't need a well-paying profession.
James Potter inherited the invisibility cloak from his father.
• Witches and wizards have longer life spans than muggles.
• The Gringott's goblins' return the muggle money they acquire back into circulation.
• The approximate value of a Galleon is about five pounds ($7.30 or 8.00 Euro), though the exchange rate varies.
• Dumbledore is 150, McGonagall is 70 (and is really an old softy, just doesn't act like it), Snape is 35 or 36.
• Hogwarts school motto, "Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus," means, "Never tickle a sleeping dragon."
• If placed in front of a mirror, the inscription on the Mirror of Erised ("Erised stra ehru oyt ube cafru oyt on whosi") reads, "I show not your face but your hearts desire."
• The happiest people do not become ghosts (12) (therefore we can take it that ghosts are people that died while sad, angry, etc. Myrtle was teased, Nearly Headless Nick didn't have his head completely chopped off, the Bloody Baron was...lonely?)
• The Hogwarts teachers do not stay at Hogwarts during the Christmas holidays. Filch, Hagrid, and Dumbledore do.
• A few of the Hogwarts professors have spouses, but that information is restricted for reasons we will find out about later. (5)
• To remove the tail that Hagrid gave Dudley in the hut on the rock, the Dursleys went to a private hospital where the staff was very discreet, and said that a wart had got out of control. (9)
• Aragog is an Acromantula (see "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them"). (6)
• Dragons can't be domesticated, no matter what Hagrid thinks. (6)
• There's more to the cats in the story (Crookshanks, Mrs. Figg's cats, Mrs. Norris, etc.) than meets the eye. (9)
• The animal an Animagi turns into is a reflection on his/her personality. (8)
• For Hagrid, keeping dangerous creatures is all about overcoming something that could kill him. (6)
• Azkaban is in a sea north of the North Sea. A very cold sea. (12)
• You can do unfocused and uncontrolled magic without a wand (like when Harry blows up Aunt Marge), but to do really good spells you need a wand. (5)
•Muggle school is not required for wizard children prior to attending Hogwarts. (9)
• A magical quill detects the birth of every magical child, and records it in a book; Professor McGonagall sends an owl to each child when he or she turns 11. (14)

[Lil Red]

[b][u]Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince - Theories[/u][/b]

A few theories have surfaced regarding future books from the happenings in Book Five. (from muggle.net)

• We've all heard that Dumbledore knows pretty much everything that goes on at Hogwarts. He also didn't care if he lost all his acclaim except taking his face off the chocolate frog cards. Perhaps Dumbledore is using the chocolate frog cards of himself in the same way that the portraits of old headmasters spy on others. After all, look at all the times Harry and Ron have gotten chocolate frog cards with his picture on them. --Submitted by Sara
*Emerson's Note: That's definitely possible, but maybe it was just a humorous quote JKR added to remind us why Dumbledore is so cool.

• There is much speculation that we haven't heard the last of Professor Trelawny's prophecies. It is likely that she will make another before the series concludes, so why not book six?

• Harry and Voldemort can't duel because Fawkes's tail feather is in both wands causing the reverse spell effect. So Harry isn't going to be able to use his wand against Voldemort's wand; the power to kill him is going to have to come from somewhere else. Where or what it is, I don't know, but it can't be wand magic. --Submitted by Ashley

• Sir Patrick Delaney Podmore (the head of the Headless Hunt) could be related to Sturgis Podmore from the Order of the Phoenix. --Submitted by Anka

• From what was said in book five, it would be logical to assume that Harry is Sirius's heir. So not only will Harry inherit Sirius's fortune and properties, but he will be the owner of 12 Grimmauld Place, and Kreacher's master. Harry is therefore going to have to control his feelings regarding the betrayal of Sirius (from Kreacher), and will have more responsibilities. --Submitted by Oswaldo

• Percy wrote a letter for Ron which attacked Harry and Dumbledore - or so it seems! If the letter is read in another way, warnings for the group begin to appear: advice about Umbridge taking control of Hogwarts; Possible removal of Dumbledore from the Headmaster´s office; the Minister of Magic trying to portray Harry as a psychotic guy; and lots of others. Could this suggest Percy is working for the Order (undercover), and perhaps Mr. Weasley and Percy, in the need of a cover staged the fight? --Submitted by Oswaldo

• On page 861 of the American version of OoTP, Nearly-Headless Nick tells Harry, "I know nothing of the secrets of death... I believe learned wizards study the matter in the Department of Mysteries." I'm assuming that Nick is referring directly or indirectly to the veil that Sirius fell through. It's entirely reasonable for the veil to be a connection, gateway, portal, whatever, to another plane: the plane where people go when they die. The veil is possibly an experiment by such 'learned wizards' trying to contact the dead or make a connection to this other plane. In this case, as Sirius didn't die from Bellatrix's spell, but merely from crossing the one-way gateway into this other plane, then the whispering voices that Harry hears are the voices of the dead, and this leaves the 'veil' open for later contact with Sirius - assuming that if one gets close enough, he or she can actually talk with the dead.

• I believe Mr. Weasley will become the Minister of Magic. The reasons are two: Fudge will probably be thrown out of office for not telling anyone about Voldemort; Ron said (in book 5 that "they have as much chance of winning the house cup as dad becoming Minister of Magic." And when Ron jokes about something, he's usually right. Who better for Dumbledore to place at the top than Mr. Weasley? --Submitted by Stevie

• Recycling of a book 5 theory that never materialized, but could in future books:
In the first book, Hagrid told Harry he didn't think Voldemort had enough human left in him to die. In the fourth book, Voldemort needed human blood to bring him back to life. At the end of book 4, after Harry explained what Wormtail and Voldemort did to him, Dumbledore had a 'look of triumph' in his eyes, could this possibly be because Voldemort was human-enough to die? -Submitted by Lucy

• On page 835 of the American verision of the OotP, Dumbledore said he protected Harry with old magic that Voldemort hated and underestimated, or in other words, Lily's lingering protection that flows in Harry's blood. Later on in the conversation, Dumbledore said the locked door in the Department of Mysteries has a force that is "more wonderful and more terrible than death." He also said that Harry has such quantities of that power and Voldemort has none. Voldemort couldn't possess Harry because "he could not bear to reside in a body so full of the force he detests." Dumbledore told Harry that he didn't need Occlumency after all because his heart had saved him. So could all of this mean that Lily's lingering protection was love? Could this type of strong love be the power in the locked room that Harry has and Voldemort doesn't? Plus, maybe Voldemort couldn't possess Harry because Harry's body was full of his mother's love. Voldemort couldn't stand to be in a body filled with motherly love. Voldemort never knew what a mother's love for her child is because his mother died when he was born. And he certainly didn't get any love from his father, who dumped him in an orphanage.
*Note from Jamie: Maybe 'love' is just what JKR wants us to think and she has told us all this to throw us off scent. There may be another power that Harry has that resides inside the Department of Mysteries.

• Could Harry be a metamorphmagus? In SS/PS JKR writes that Harry had grown back his hair over night after his Aunt Petunia had given him an awful haircut. You obviously have to concentrate on changing your appearance if you are a metamorphmagus, and Harry was concentrating very hard on his hair because he was worried about the way it looked. --Submitted by Amanda

• Lucius Malfoy was a guest at the Quidditch World Cup, and he was credited for making a significant contribution to St. Mungo's. In Order of the Phoenix, we are continually reminded of how Lucius buys people, such as the Minister of Magic. Also, someone made the poor guy snuff it in the same ward as the Longbottoms. Could it be that Lucius Malfoy is seeing to it that Neville's parent's conditions won't improve? I believe so, and I also believe that there is more to those gum wrappers than we know as well. --Submitted by David


[b][u]Book Seven Theories[/b][/u]
• I think the outcome of book 7 is pretty well set. Voldemort will die, whether Harry goes with him or not is uncertain. Voldemort must die because if he lives on, with Harry dead, he will never die! No other person would be able to kill him due to what the prophecy said, he wouldn't even die of old age of disease because he isn't mortal anymore. He would just live on forever and eventually take over the wizarding and muggle world - No writer in their right minds would kill off the whole world! --Submitted by Nicole

• In book seven, Dumbledore will be killed by Voldemort. It will be the last and final straw before Harry kills Voldemort. He will sacrifice himself for Harry, and pay the consequences. Harry will then have a great power with in him, more wonderful and more terrible than anything before, and finally defeat Voldemort. There is another side to this story though. It might very well be possible that Wormtail will sacrifice himself instead since, he is in dept to Harry. Harry's Mom loved him so much that she gave her life for him. She gave him a power that Voldemort could not understand, love. Obviously she is not his enemy, but Wormtail is. He is the reason why Harry's parents are dead. Harry's enemy Wormtail (aka Peter Pettigrew), will give his life to save him, and give him a power that Voldemort will again, not understand. -- Submitted by GeorgiaT

• Harry will destroy Voldemort the same way his mother did. Harry will sacrifice his life, most likely for either Hermione or Ginny, and the spell will rebound with such intensity from the first time that Voldemort will utterly be destroyed! As for Harry, will he come back to life or not, that is something only JKR can determine. Hopefully she will let him live in the end. -- Submitted by Eric

[Someguynamedmatt]

did yall know that JK is pregnant with her third child? she says that she doesn't think her pregnancy will interfere at all with the progress of book six, but i'm kind of skeptical about that. we can only wait and see, but i think it's safe to say the book isn't coming out in 2004.

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote]Hogwarts school motto, "Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus," means, "Never tickle a sleeping dragon."[/quote]

Well...more literally it means, "a sleeping dragon must never be tickled," but whatever...

Who wants to bet that a sleeping dragon gets tickled somewhere along the line?



I have a theory about who will kill Voldemort. I do not think that it will be Harry (even though I'd like it to be).

We found out in book 5 that it could only be either Harry or Neville. Neville was dismissed for obvious reasons and because Harry touched the orb and heard the secret. Read closely what happened. We know that a fortune can only be heard by the people whom it is about. Otherwise, those who touch the orbs will go insane. We all assume, but only assume, that this insanity is immediate. It may not be. Harry may be going insane already, and we will find out slowly. More importantly, Neville can't be it, we assume again (smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors), because he is bad with magic. However, it was mentioned off-handedly that he is using his grandfather's wand, because his family is not wealthy enough for him to have his own. At the end of the fifth book, his wand breaks. He'll have to get his own. Will his magic improve because of it? Will he become even better than Harry? Even better than Voldemort? Even better than Dumbledore?

Hmmm...

[Lil Red]

interesting thoughts, raphael. hmmm, very interesting.

i heard a rumor that the Half-Blood Prince might be Dudley. Think about it. If Aunt Petunia is a Squib (which is still a magical person) and Uncle Vernon is a human, Dudley would be half-blood. Maybe part of the deal of taking Harry in was to wipe Dudley's name from the "magic books".

[marielapin]

A squib is a person who is born to magic parents but has no magic ability of their own. If Harry's Aunt Petunia is a Squib, it wouldn't make much sense because in Book 1, if you remember, Petunia tells Harry that her mom was "so proud to have a witch in the family" (talking about Lily). If their parents were magical, I don't see why they would be all excited if they were magical too.

[Deeds]

[quote name='p0lar_bear' date='Jul 28 2004, 05:58 PM'] Actually, the mistake with the order was due to a very good but perhaps overzealous editor for the US edition. JK originally had the right order but the editor thought it was wrong and changed it. She trusted him and didn't really scrutinize the change....

It only happened in the first edition in the US, everyone else got it the right way. [/quote]
We had that same mistake here in the UK - I noticed it the first time I read the book. There's a webpage somewhere that lists all the mistakes that have cropped up in the books. Most of them are quite minor though.

I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT BOOK! But I think J.K.'s pregnancy will delay it.

[DancesforLove]

WHEN THOUGH!! when does it come out, I'm getting anxious lol
Woah I just realized my geekyness lol oh well not caring

[Sojourner]

They haven't set a release date yet.

I'm planning to do the midnight purchase, though. I've done that for the last two books.

[Luthien]

[EDIT: My sisters don't like to sign out when they're logged on my XP user...]

Edited August 4, 2004 by Luthien

[azaelia]

Is it bad that I'm reading all these hints before I've even started reading the books? Must find local library...