cmotherofpirl Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 It is absolutely true. Father Mitch Pacwa of EWTN and Father Groeshel have both talked about the miracle at Hiroshima. Our Lady protects her own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfran Posted July 27, 2004 Author Share Posted July 27, 2004 (edited) There were some inconsistencies in the reports above, though. All the priests survived, but they weren't free of the radiation sickness. I found the bk Hiroshima by John Hersey (the story was first published in Time magazine) and he did another edition forty yrs later, saying that Fr Kleinsorge lived with leukaemia til 1977. To me, the miracle is that they survived the blast itself. I emailed Fr Levesque at CatholicDoors and he said he wasn't familiar with it... Which program/episode was this? I wanna download it off the ewtn site. Edited July 27, 2004 by justfran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelly_freak Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 i heard that story at ncyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfran Posted July 27, 2004 Author Share Posted July 27, 2004 NCYC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfran Posted July 27, 2004 Author Share Posted July 27, 2004 Just sent an email to someone at the Historical Soc. of the Archdiocese of Philadelphia, asking for stuff on that speech that Fr Schiffer gave...I'm not expecting anything soon, the site says that the manuscripts for the stuff on the '76 Eucharistic Congress is unavailable atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfran Posted July 28, 2004 Author Share Posted July 28, 2004 Well I got a receipt saying my email was read, but I haven't gotten a reply. I'm completely licked (Brit slang for confused, I like the term). Anyone else know anything about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 I have heard two priests confirm this story, so I believe them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfran Posted July 28, 2004 Author Share Posted July 28, 2004 That the priests didn't even get radiation sickness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfran Posted July 29, 2004 Author Share Posted July 29, 2004 (edited) *whew* Reading all the articles more closely, I can now breathe a huge, HUGE sigh of relief. I think this Dr. Richard F Hubbell dude who wrote the main bit article at YearoftheRosary (the other dude wrote the sciency stuff) really should check his links, as well as what he's reading. What Hubbell says: [quote]Not only did they all survive with (at most) relatively minor injuries, but they all lived well past that awful day with no radiation sickness, no loss of hearing, or any other visible long term defects or maladies. Naturally, they were interviewed numerous times (Fr. Schiffer, a survivor, said over 200 times) by scientists and health care people about their remarkable experience and they say "we believe that we survived because we were living the message of Fatima. We lived and prayed the rosary daily in that home." [/quote] What Fr. Paul Ruge wrote: [quote]After the conquest of the Americans, their army doctors and scientists explained to him that his body would begin to deteriorate because of the radiation. Many of the Japanese people had blisters and sores from the radiation. To the doctors amazement, [b]Fr. Schiffer's [/b]body contained no radiation or ill-effects from the bomb. [b]Fr. Schiffer [/b]attributes this to devotion to the Blessed Mother, and [b]his[/b] daily Fatima Rosary. [b]He[/b] feels that [b]he[/b] received a protective shield from the Blessed Mother which protected [b]him[/b] from all radiation and ill-effects. [/quote] I'm absolutely positive that Fr. Ruge took care in his writing to mention Fr. Schiffer, and only Fr. Schiffer in his writing. Otherwise, it would have been inconsistent with what both John Hersey and Fr. John Siemes (another survivor of the bombings) wrote, saying that two of the priests in the same house as Fr. Schiffer, Fr. Knleinsorge and Fr. Cieslik, got the radiation sickness. Richard Hubbell even links to Fr. John's article! [url="http://www.jimcorley.com/account.htm"]here[/url]! And a quote from that article: [quote]Father Kleinsorge and Father Cieslik, who were near the center of the explosion, but who did not suffer burns became quite weak some fourteen days after the explosion. Up to this time small incised wounds had healed normally, but thereafter the wounds which were still unhealed became worse and are to date (in September) still incompletely healed. The attending physician diagnosed it as leucopania.[/quote] As for Hubbell's bolded note on the book by Francis Johnston, BEST ON FATIMA: FATIMA - THE GREAT SIGN (which according to the article, has been Imprimatured) I'm not sure when this book was written - I can't find it anywhere on the Net, so I reckon it'd be old enough to go out of print. Hubbell says the priests are still alive today...I don't know *what* today he's writing about, because Fr. Schiffer died in 1982, and Fr. Kleinsorge died in '77... As for the BVM's protection of the two priests who did get the radiation sickness...it's come to my attention that not all protection is physical. The priests would have kept relying on God for support in their illness. Maybe if they didn't get sick, they would havecome to think that they didn't need God and become proud. So IMO, there would have been no better protection at all than that. Thank You, God, for answering my request... (I prayed last night and the night before that my heart be opened to the truth about this. And I feel both my head and heart agree this is the truth.) Edited July 29, 2004 by justfran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piccoli Fiori JMJ Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 I love that story! It is so neato! Mother Mary is awesome! Sorry this pic is a little big... [img]http://www.catholic.org/saints/ff_images/27.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfran Posted July 30, 2004 Author Share Posted July 30, 2004 (edited) i just don't like how richard hubbell seems to jump to conclusions and say that none of the priests suffered ill effects when two accounts, both written by people who survived the bombing or were there to record what went on after that, one a [b]priest[/b] and the other one a journalist, clearly say that some of the priests did! And if they all actually didn't get radiation sickness, then it would have said so in Fr Ruge's writings, as well as the comic. (Still a little peeved at Hubbell for giving me heart failure.) EDIT: Just received an email from the Archidiocese of Philadelphia Historical Society. [quote]Dear Jenifer, We have nothing in our Eucharistic Congress files on the Hiroshima Rosary Miracle nor Fr. Hubert Schiffer. There is also no mention of either in the official history of the Eucharistic Congress. Shawn Weldon Assistant Archivist[/quote] Seems I'm not the only one who's been had, then. If the official history doesn't have it, I wouldn't know what would. No wonder why i couldn't find anything about it. Edited July 30, 2004 by justfran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Did you write to EWTN ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfran Posted July 30, 2004 Author Share Posted July 30, 2004 (edited) Yeah (the expert i sent it to was William H carroll, the Chairman of the History Department of Christendom College), haven't gotten any reply yet and I know that the letter was opened cos I got a receipt saying so. I also emailed ppl here in the Archdiocese of Sydney and they couldn't find anything, either. Edited July 30, 2004 by justfran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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