Cure of Ars Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Phatcatholic what is the timeline, plan, and goals we have for the apologetic crusade? We gots to keep things moving or were going to loose momentum. Bottom line what’s the strategy? [quote][b]The Art of War[/b] Sun Tzu said: Now the general who wins a battle makes many calculations in his temple ere the battle is fought. The general who loses a battle makes but few calculations beforehand. Thus do many calculations lead to victory, and few calculations to defeat: how much more no calculation at all! It is by attention to this point that I can foresee who is likely to win or lose. [/quote] [url="http://www.chinapage.com/sunzi-e.html"]http://www.chinapage.com/sunzi-e.html[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 I have been praying and thinking much about this. I think that there should be some training. I also think that part of the job of us who go out will be something called [i]Incarnational evangelization[/i]. What that means is to follow Jesus’ example of coming [b]to humanity with humility[/b]. We may also look to St. Paul when he visited Athens’s Parthenon. Basically what needs to happen is that when we go to another website we must not only pack more apologetic heat then the coalition forces, [b]but also love[/b]. When we go we must develop a relationship with the people their so that we may earn their respect, when we earn their respect, we will earn their ear, when we earn their ear, [b]we will win their hearts[/b]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cure of Ars Posted July 24, 2004 Author Share Posted July 24, 2004 "heat then the coalition forces" using the apostles for the sources Theoketos, I concur but it is impossible to have open human-to-human discussions in hostile environments. I think we need to defending the faith while keeping our eyes open to those who are open. Invite them to a personal conversation here at phatmass. At this stage have it be just one on one to build the relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 I can see that, my point is that we should not let our zeal get in the way of love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Zewe Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Why are you reading a Taoist book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cure of Ars Posted July 25, 2004 Author Share Posted July 25, 2004 [quote name='Theoketos' date='Jul 24 2004, 11:52 AM'] I can see that, my point is that we should not let our zeal get in the way of love. [/quote] I can see that. It can be manipulative if love is not the first priority. I'd still like to know where we are at and what needs to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cure of Ars Posted July 25, 2004 Author Share Posted July 25, 2004 [quote name='Chris Zewe' date='Jul 24 2004, 06:57 PM'] Why are you reading a Taoist book? [/quote] To gain knowledge and truth. I try to follow the old, "Test everything; retain what is good." (1 Thess 5:21) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelFilo Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 There are truths in taoism. Just like in Protestantism, just not the whole Truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 Where the heck is Phaty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 sorry guys, i've spent all day yesterday and today moving into my new apt. sunday, i planned on initiating the next phase of this project: cure and i have established a list of questions that every "crusader" must be able answer w/ an affirmative before they can proceed to the next stage. i will post them in a new thread. everyone must respond back before we can move further. pax christi, phatcatholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 God bless you, next time you move I will help you, if that is I live any where close. Like say, if you came to U.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 (edited) cure of ars, i need you to send a reminder to the following people so that we can complete Phase One of the question-answer process. here is the message you will be sending them:[list] [*]if you have not already, please go here: [url="http://phorum.phatmass.com/index.php?showtopic=16474"]http://phorum.phatmass.com/index.php?showtopic=16474[/url] and answer the Phatmass Crusade Questionnaire. we can't proceed to the next phase of this project until [i][b]every single one of you[/b][/i] (65 and counting!) have given your reply. thanks! [/list]i am currently messaging the first 32. here are the last 32 that you will be messaging: 33. Sojourner 34. cathoholic 35. Christina 36. DemonSlayer 37. forumjunkie 38. Phikoz 39. Kuya Lee 40. Margarite 41. DancesforLove 42. zwergel88 43. Philippe 44. Justified Saint 45. lifeteenchick527 46. Pio Nono 47. MCJust 48. MichaelFilo 49. cmotherofpirl 50. hananiah 51. mmmerf 52. God Conquers 53. Katholikos 54. Anna 55. Gunga_ann 56. jmjtina 57. Brother Adam 58. Laudate_Dominum 59. point5 60. Don John of Austria 61. AbsolutFire 62. eightfoot514 63. homeschoolmom 64. Ellenita go [url="http://phorum.phatmass.com/index.php?showtopic=16042"][b]here[/b][/url] if you want to check the spelling of a person's name. thanks alot man. i know this is alot of work, but i think it is important. let me know when you are finished. pax christi, phatcatholic Edited July 25, 2004 by phatcatholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 here's what you can put for the message title: Complete Phase One of the Crusade Today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cure of Ars Posted July 25, 2004 Author Share Posted July 25, 2004 Phatcatholic, I'm on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 [quote name='Cure of Ars' date='Jul 25 2004, 01:11 PM'] Phatcatholic, I'm on it [/quote] thanks man, that's awesome. btw, the first 32 have now been messaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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