dUSt Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 [quote name='Chris Zewe' date='Jul 23 2004, 01:53 PM'] [/quote] [quote]I don't want respect from you, it's just that I've learned that you'll never convert someone or change their way of thinking on a message board or in a chat room when it comes to politics, philosophy or religion. [/quote] There are members here who have both converted [b]and[/b] changed their political views because of a message board. [quote]I see no reason to respond to various posts just because I left something out of my description. If you honestly want to learn, look it up. Then when you're comfortable engaging in a debate about Wicca, bring it up.[/quote] Like it has been stated, there are other Wiccan members that post here. Furthermore, there are ex-Wiccans who post here that could probably enlighten you on the subject. May I ask where [b]you[/b] learn about Wicca? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 (edited) [quote name='Chris Zewe' date='Jul 23 2004, 03:53 PM'] I don't want respect from you, it's just that I've learned that you'll never convert someone or change their way of thinking on a message board or in a chat room when it comes to politics, philosophy or religion. I see no reason to respond to various posts just because I left something out of my description. If you honestly want to learn, look it up. Then when you're comfortable engaging in a debate about Wicca, bring it up. [/quote] [quote]I've learned that you'll never convert someone or change their way of thinking on a message board or in a chat room when it comes to politics, philosophy or religion. [/quote] I've learned otherwise. Some people are closed minded, but there are those who are in search of truth, can listen to all sides, and make an educated choice. [quote] I see no reason to respond to various posts just because I left something out of my description. If you honestly want to learn, look it up. Then when you're comfortable engaging in a debate about Wicca, bring it up.[/quote] If you honestly want to learn what the Catholic Church teaches, then look it up. Then when you know something about the Catholic Church you can debate on an educated level, and then you should bring it up. Funny... I just posted something in reference to the above about some of your statements. Are you looking for a place to make you feel better by attacking others? If so, this is not the place. EDIT: I forgot to give you some links.... [url="http://www.USCCB.org"]http://www.USCCB.org[/url] [url="http://www.Catholic-Pages.com"]http://www.Catholic-Pages.com[/url] [url="http://www.Catholic.com"]http://www.Catholic.com[/url] [url="http://www.Catholicity.com"]http://www.Catholicity.com[/url] Edited July 23, 2004 by ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 [quote name='Chris Zewe' date='Jul 23 2004, 02:53 PM'] I don't want respect from you, it's just that I've learned that you'll never convert someone or change their way of thinking on a message board or in a chat room when it comes to politics, philosophy or religion. I see no reason to respond to various posts just because I left something out of my description. If you honestly want to learn, look it up. Then when you're comfortable engaging in a debate about Wicca, bring it up. [/quote] You sure about that? I'm a Catholic convert, does it make me a [b]moron[/b], or [b]weak[/b]? No, I was searching for Truth, and I found it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 i wanna know why, as a catholic, i apparently have the IQ of a carrot..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flip Posted July 23, 2004 Author Share Posted July 23, 2004 ok Chris, maybe too much posting has gone on... I will now post what I believe: I believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen. I believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary, and was made man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered death and was buried. On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. I believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. I acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen. This is the jist of what I believe. Now, its your turn... what do you believe? I don't want to "look it up" I want to know what you personally believe. Talk about the "majick" stuff you told me in your PM. I want to hear more of that stuff!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Chris Feel free to say anything and totally express your self. Simply respect others and you will be fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual_Arsonist Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Chris, I have known many Wiccan ppl in school. Please explain to us why this religion appeals to you. I am all ears!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 [quote name='Spiritual_Arsonist' date='Jul 24 2004, 12:23 AM'] Chris, I have known many Wiccan ppl in school. Please explain to us why this religion appeals to you. I am all ears!!! [/quote] I have two sister's who were wiccan's. One is now a mormon, and the other is looking into becoming catholic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Zewe Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 (edited) [color=red]Edited by Kilroy the Ninja: No need to be rude.[/color] Edited July 24, 2004 by Kilroy the Ninja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelFilo Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 That is the 3rd time Chris says something and it makes no sense due to mod editing. Say stuff that is nicer, it may help. God bless, Michael Filo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual_Arsonist Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 OKAY boys and girls, LETS ALL PLAY NICE. I may have to start R.A.S.P!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeenaBobba Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 Hi Chris, You say you're undecided about what you believe in terms of Wicca, but could you explain what it is you believe and why you believe it? It's up to you, so please don't feel pressured. God bless, Jen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Zewe Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 Perhaps you should look up the meaning of "undecided"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebirth flame Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 Chris~ i'm confused... you are wiccan, but you don't know why...? perhaps i am just misreading these posts, but you seem to not be able to tell us [i]anything[/i] about being wiccan... this isn't any kind of attack, i'm just sincerely curious as to what you believe as a wiccan... but you don't seem to be able to provide that information for any of us here... ah well... God Bless ya, Chris! ~nate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonius Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 Chris, are you gonna talk to us? Or are you gonna leave us all hangin'? Or do you feel that you would be giving too much of yourself away by talking openly about Wicca and what you believe, fearing that we might "challenge" you about it? You stated before that you believe that people can do whatever they want and think whatever they want, they just have to pay the consequences, whatever they may be. This is more existentialist i think than Wiccan, or am i wrong? I believe the same thing, almost. In this world, people have freedom of will and thought. And when their time in this world is done, they will pay the consequences. I'd rather go to Heaven than Hell. It is more impossible for me to contemplate non-existence than it is to contemplate the Infinite. Look, when you start doing your Wiccan spells, don't say I didn't warn you when a demon pops out or a "black magick" sorcerer curses you. What will you do then to get rid of the evil spirit? (a little "non-sequitur" but it's ok i think. PM me if you have questions.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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