Aloysius Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 (edited) just compiling myself an argument here... you can help me or discredit me or whatever. just gonna compile PhatMasser quotes, CCC quotes, and perhaps a link or two. hahaha, i'm a PhatCatholic wanna be [quote][b]CCC 2291[/b] The [i]use of drugs[/i] inflicts very grave damage on human health and life. Their use, except on strictly therapeutic grounds, is a grave offense. Clandestine production of and trafficking in drugs are scandalous practices. They constitute direct co-operation in evil, since they encourage people to practices gravely contrary to the moral law.[/quote] [quote][b]Pio Nono@Jun 29 2004, 01:49 PM [/b] 1.) Cursing is not sinful in itself, but could show a lack of prudence in certain company. For instance, when you're on a farm and you step in cow you-know-what, call it whatever you want; when meeting the bishop, don't tell him he looks <insert expletive> great. As you can see, I've eschewed the use of curses in order to comply with prudential judgment. If your parents have told you not to curse, though, then it violates the 4th commandment to do so. 2.) Drinking in moderation is completely cool. Unless someone has alcohol problems, there is no block to moderate drinking. St. Thomas Aquinas urges the scrupulous (who are able to drink) to have a glass of wine in order to loosen their nerves. 3.)[u]Marijuana isn't cool because just a single use has the effect of weakening one's reason; that's why drunkenness is a sin. However, I must have a few drinks before it becomes sinful - marijuana is immediately sinful because its effects are immediate.[/u] 4.) Smoking tobacco isn't sinful, so long as it is done with prudence and one doesn't become addicted. Becoming addicted is really easy, so staying away may be the best choice. [/quote] [quote][b]PedroX @ Feb 27 2004, 12:12 PM [/b] Marijuana is worse for your body that Alcohol or tobacco. The physical effect on the body is 20 times that of smoking tobacco. In other words, smoking one joint is physically the same as smoking a whole pack of cigarettes. [/quote] [quote][b]jmjtina @ Feb 27 2004, 01:19 PM [/b] you know, I associate marijuana not with "recreational, puff puff pass, smoke less than a pack a day" illusion, but with rage, murder, obsessive, addicted, sinful horrific things. Yeah, and I'm from the barrio, so most of these people don't worry about getting caught and put in jail......only when it leads to murder. Pray for all those who are slaves to this sin as well as others. And don't give me the "that's not everybody" statement, because I've got my youth group pressured to take drugs and this argument is shot. [/quote] [quote][b]Iacobus @ Feb 27 2004, 01:25 PM [/b] A study was released about a year ago in the UK that found that weed has a much larger cancer causing effect. The particles were like 20 times more likly to casue cancer. Also, your body is a temple a gift from God, we shouldn't abuse it with drugs. [/quote] [quote][b]Norseman82 @ Feb 27 2004, 03:08 PM [/b] Alcohol is legal; marijuana is not. Alcohol is sanctioned in the bible; marijuana is not. [/quote] [quote][b]dUSt @ Feb 27 2004, 11:02 PM[/b] Remember. There's no hope with dope. [/quote] if you made that quote and are surprised to see it here, so sue me you posted it on an open phorum so it's fair game Hmmm... i'll post this and then see if I can find any good links or something. with my luck it's prolly somewhere in the reference section already and I missed it. ah well, i need to do some work. this is simply me compiling your thoughts about this issue Pax Edited July 21, 2004 by Aloysius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 21, 2004 Author Share Posted July 21, 2004 [url="http://www.cin.org/mateo/mat93007.html"]http://www.cin.org/mateo/mat93007.html[/url] well, I guess I'll leave it here for now. Anyone wish to help me out some more is welcome, and then I can just direct my friend to this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 (edited) aloysius, here ya go --[url="http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=4642"]Hard Scrutiny for a Soft Drug[/url] --[url="http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=3532"]Scientific Findings Prove Harms of Soft Drugs[/url] --[url="http://www.ewtn.com/library/CURIA/PCFDRUGS.HTM"]Should Soft Drugs Be Legalized?[/url] --[url="http://www.catholiceducation.org/links/jump.cgi?ID=2953"]Killer Weed[/url] --[url="http://www.catholiceducation.org/links/jump.cgi?ID=3002"]Marijuana on the Ballot[/url] --[url="http://www.catholiceducation.org/links/jump.cgi?ID=3704"]New Studies Point to Health Dangers of Marijuana[/url] --[url="http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993543"]Marijuana Use in Pregnancy Damages Embryo Brains[/url] --[url="http://www.cin.org/archives/cinhealth/200003/0002.html"]Pot Smoking Raises Risk of Heart Attack[/url] Edited July 21, 2004 by phatcatholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 21, 2004 Author Share Posted July 21, 2004 :tiphat: i take my hat of to the master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 The Quote from Iacobus would be better if you could name the study. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 22, 2004 Author Share Posted July 22, 2004 yeah that'd be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Yeh that would be nice. I read about it on Zorba (sp?) Patuer (sp?) on your health a year or so ago. I can like to see if I can find the name. But I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 [url="http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_myth.shtml"]http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_myth.shtml[/url] and the trouble is, most studies cannot definitely point to [u]just[/u] marijuana. most people they test are also using alcohol and/or other drugs. so they can't separate for just marijuana. just a counterpoint. (to play devil's advocate ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Got a news report on it here [url="http://www.jointogether.org/sa/news/summaries/reader/0%2C1854%2C555157%2C00.html"]http://www.jointogether.org/sa/news/summar...55157%2C00.html[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudine Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Agreed with DUst! No HOPE with DOPE! Its SO True!!! ---> CLaudine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 25, 2004 Author Share Posted July 25, 2004 bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-I---Love Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 al - weed is the seed - plant it on fertile ground and as God will plant his love in you so will the weed plant it's peace in you jk u know me I didn't read the links yet but I am now so hold up for me Dope IS Dope and it's better than COKE! (that could be cocaine or in als case coca cola products that are hurting him despite the fact that he appears in perfect shape b/c he has the most blessed metabolism ever - just wait till ur 25 al - then we'll see) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 25, 2004 Author Share Posted July 25, 2004 :nanny: in case anyone's wondring, that's the friend I mentioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 [quote name='Claudine' date='Jul 22 2004, 12:27 PM'] Agreed with DUst! No HOPE with DOPE! Its SO True!!! ---> CLaudine [/quote] Hope is my Dope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madonna Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 So what about cigarettes? Everyone knows how harmful they are. Is it sinful to smoke? If not, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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