nikkan_hanil Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 In my opinion, wearing laminated scapulars is not valid because many leaflets I've read before claim that a wool scapular must be in contact with the skin. In addition, I also think that "metal chain" scapulars which seem to becoming popular among various retailers are also invalid because they are not wool and laminated at the same time which if I recall correctly, would most likely be against the instruction of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel, yes? What's your view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 k4th0l1x0r Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Everything I've read claims that the scapular does not need to be worn next to the skin. This means that you can wear it between an undershirt and your outer shirt or wear a laminated scapular. It looks like most of the laminated once I've seen have paper sewn to them so the lamination is there to protect the paper. A metal scapular must be blessed individually (can't be used for investment, but may replace a wool one immediately after investment) and can only be worn in situation where wearing a wool one isn't possible. Such exceptions are made for factory workers, people with wool allergies, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkan_hanil Posted July 21, 2004 Author Share Posted July 21, 2004 (edited) I've also read that they shouldn't be pinned to clothes. Edited July 21, 2004 by nikkan_hanil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 k4th0l1x0r Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 [quote name='nikkan_hanil' date='Jul 21 2004, 10:25 AM'] I've also read that they shouldn't be pinned to clothes. [/quote] That's interesting. I ran a race a few weeks ago and pinned my scapular to my shirt. However, the way I pinned it, I put a saftey pin around the cords of the scapular so there was no pin going through the scapular. Essentially, it kept it from flopping around like it normally does when I run without it pinned. I'm assuming that this is okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Pinning and wearing is a good thing for runners. Because the Scapular should be worn not carried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 k4th0l1x0r Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 [quote name='Theoketos' date='Jul 21 2004, 12:56 PM'] Pinning and wearing is a good thing for runners. Because the Scapular should be worn not carried. [/quote] Yeah. I figure that if there's anytime I'm going to die, it's probably going to be when I'm exercising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conservativecatholic Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 I have a question regarding the scapular. I was watching Mother Angelica Live on EWTN and according to Mother Angelica, one can only wear a scapular when instructed by a priest. My mother received the sacrament of Holy Communion about 40 years ago and at the Mass the celebrant placed scapulars on all of the children. When I received my First Holy Communion, not one scapular was handed out. Am I able to wear one? May God Bless! -conservativecatholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JeffCR07 Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 conservative, not without a priest's blessing. The priest much teach the individual about the scapular and the scapular is blessed by the priest, [i]then[/i] given to the individual to wear. Nikkan, multiple Popes have definitively upheld that a scapular in medallion form is a legitimate substitute. For this reason, they can [i]never[/i] be invalid, and it is not a matter of opinion, but rather faithful adherence of the laity to papal decree. - Your Brother In Christ, Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conservativecatholic Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 [quote name='JeffCR07' date='Jul 21 2004, 02:51 PM'] conservative, not without a priest's blessing. The priest much teach the individual about the scapular and the scapular is blessed by the priest, [i]then[/i] given to the individual to wear. Nikkan, multiple Popes have definitively upheld that a scapular in medallion form is a legitimate substitute. For this reason, they can [i]never[/i] be invalid, and it is not a matter of opinion, but rather faithful adherence of the laity to papal decree. - Your Brother In Christ, Jeff [/quote] Jeff: Thanks a bunch for the response. I'm on my way to the Catholic Bookstore to pick up a scapular! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 I must mention that one may wear a Green Scapular with out the sanction of a priest, as it requires no investature. The Green is for convertion, and I have never seen it fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JeffCR07 Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Theoketos is correct, I should have noted that the necessity of a priestly blessing is dependent upon the scapular in question. Thanks for the clarification! - Your Brother In Christ, Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conservativecatholic Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 [quote name='Theoketos' date='Jul 21 2004, 03:40 PM'] I must mention that one may wear a Green Scapular with out the sanction of a priest, as it requires no investature. The Green is for convertion, and I have never seen it fail. [/quote] The most famous scapular is the Brown Scapular which is accociated with the Carmelite Order of Priests and Nuns. Other scapulars include the Black Scapular of the Servite Order, the Blue Scapular of the Immaculate Conception, the Red Scapular of the Precious Blood and St. Joseph's Purple Scapular. There is also the White Scapular which is asscociated with the Domincan Order. Just to mention a few... By the way, thanks for telling me that the Green Scapular required no investature. I never knew that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietfire Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 So that means I can wear a Green Scapular? Since I wish to be received. Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkan_hanil Posted July 22, 2004 Author Share Posted July 22, 2004 [quote name='JeffCR07' date='Jul 21 2004, 03:51 PM'] Nikkan, multiple Popes have definitively upheld that a scapular in medallion form is a legitimate substitute. For this reason, they can [i]never[/i] be invalid, and it is not a matter of opinion, but rather faithful adherence of the laity to papal decree. - Your Brother In Christ, Jeff [/quote] I don't mean medallions on scapulars, I mean scapulars that are made out of metal. I just didn't think that this was acceptable now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 [quote name='nikkan_hanil' date='Jul 21 2004, 08:54 PM']I don't mean medallions on scapulars, I mean scapulars that are made out of metal. I just didn't think that this was acceptable now.[/quote] Do you mean like a four-way scapular medal? I have a four-way medal (actually, I lost it recently ) that a priest blessed so that it could serve as a scapular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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