Pope John Paul Ii Is A Universalist

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[quote name='Chucho' date='Jul 30 2004, 02:05 AM']
However, I do support and affirm the need for peace in our world among those of different religions since no one will accept the message if they don’t accept the messenger. [/quote]
There is much truth to this. We must pray for peace and I have no question that the intentions of many of those who planned that event were good. But peace cannot come at the expense of truth. On those terms, it will only be a false peace. But you are right here. If they shoot the messenger, it is hard to get them to listen to the message.

[universal]

If one reads every single statement of the Pope out of context of the body of his works then one is like a protestant reading scripture and misinterpreting it based on one's false assumptions and the lack of the context of scripture (that is Sacred Tradition).

PJPII is no unitarianist. If you read even a few of his writings you could tell.

Edited July 30, 2004 by universal

[Budge]

Ah perhaps the Pope is just following Vatican 2...

From the UUs.

[url="http://www.uunashua.org/100q/c2.shtml#q25"]http://www.uunashua.org/100q/c2.shtml#q25[/url]
[quote]
[b]What is your attitude toward other religious faiths such as Judaism, Hinduism and Buddhism?[/b][u]We believe there is wisdom in most, if not all, of the world's religions[/u] We feel each is valuable for what it can tell us about ourselves and our world, and how its members find religious meaning and direction.[/quote]

From the Catholics:

[url="http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decl_19651028_nostra-aetate_en.html"]http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_council...-aetate_en.html[/url]


[quote][u]The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions [/u]She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men[/quote]


What they passed out to people at Assisi:

[url="http://www.vatican.va/news_services/liturgy/documents/travels/assisi14.html"]http://www.vatican.va/news_services/liturg...s/assisi14.html[/url]

IN the UU church no service starts without the lighting of the chalice. Ive been in three due to moving, it is mandated in order of service. In fact its even the logo.

Edited July 30, 2004 by Budge

[Budge]

will answer more later

[Theoketos]

There is a substantial deifference in both world view and idealogy with in the above quotes.

The U.U. from what I understand says that all relegions are equal becuase they have truthes. This does not make sense at all, thanks in part to the principal of non -contridiction.

The Church teaches that she is the fullness of the Truth, and that all truth will lead to Jesus, through her. And that if men possess any truth it is becuase God has graced them with it.

So certain religions teach that killing and war and rape are bad. They should teach that. Some religions teach that modesty and marriage are good, they should continue to teach that. They should continue then to work out what is really true.

[quote]The Church, therefore, exhorts her sons, that through dialogue and collaboration with the followers of other religions, carried out with prudence and love and in witness to the Christian faith and life, they recognize, preserve and promote the good things, spiritual and moral, as well as the socio-cultural values found among these men.[/quote]

If they continue to do that, with an honest heart, they will be lead to Rome, to Christ, and to Heaven.

IT kind of sounds like St. Paul in 1 Cor 9:22

[quote]To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.[/quote]

That is what Vatican II is saying and that is what the Pope is proposing.

[Theoketos]

[quote]If one reads every single statement of the Pope out of context of the body of his works then one is like a protestant reading scripture and misinterpreting it based on one's false assumptions and the lack of the context of scripture (that is Sacred Tradition).

PJPII is no unitarianist. If you read even a few of his writings you could tell.
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Back it up.