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WCC_Catholic

[quote name='Colleen' date='Jul 19 2004, 03:23 PM'] I'm voting for George Bush. Kerry is a hypocrite, waffles on the issues, and does not respect the dignity of human life. [/quote]
Amen i could not vote for Kerry i cant vote for two baby killers



(i had to edit it sorry yall if you read it before) :(

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cmotherofpirl

If you are a Catholic and you vote for Kerry you are voting FOR baby-killers and committing a sin.

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Those who are voting for Kerry, please read this...

[url="http://www.catholic.com/library/voters_guide.asp"]http://www.catholic.com/library/voters_guide.asp[/url]

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[quote name='nikkan_hanil' date='Jul 22 2004, 02:44 PM']What does this mean?[/quote]
It means he flipflops. For example:

[quote]Kerry Said He Will Fight To Keep Tax Relief For Married Couples. “Howard Dean and Gephardt are going to put the marriage penalty back in place. So if you get married in America, we’re going to charge you more taxes. I do not want to do that.” (Fox News’ “Special Report,” 10/23/03)

Said Democrats Fought To End Marriage Penalty Tax. “We fought hard to get rid of the marriage penalty.” (MSNBC’s “News Live,” 7/31/03)

But, In 1998, Kerry Voted Against Eliminating Marriage Penalty Relief For Married Taxpayers With Combined Incomes Less Than $50,000 Per Year, Saving Taxpayers $46 Billion Over 10 Years. (S. 1415, CQ Vote #154: Rejected 48-50: R 5-49; D 43-1, 6/10/98, Kerry Voted Yea)[/quote]

or

[quote]Kerry Used To Say Abortion Should Be Left Up To States. “I think the question of abortion is one that should be left for the states to decide,” Kerry said during his failed 1972 Congressional bid. (“John Kerry On The Issues,” The [Lowell, MA] Sun, 10/11/72)

Now Kerry Says Abortion Is Law Of Entire Nation. “The right to choose is the law of the United States. No person has the right to infringe on that freedom. Those of us who are in government have a special responsibility to see to it that the United States continues to protect this right, as it must protect all rights secured by the constitution.” (Sen. John Kerry [D-MA], Congressional Record, 1/22/85)
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or

[quote]Kerry Used To Oppose Litmus Tests For Judicial Nominees. “Throughout two centuries, our federal judiciary has been a model institution, one which has insisted on the highest standards of conduct by our public servants and officials, and which has survived with undiminished respect. Today, I fear that this institution is threatened in a way that we have not seen before. … This threat is that of the appointment of a judiciary which is not independent, but narrowly ideological, through the systematic targeting of any judicial nominee who does not meet the rigid requirements of litmus tests imposed …” (Sen. John Kerry, Congressional Record, 2/3/86, p. S864)

But Now Kerry Says He Would Only Support Supreme Court Nominees Who Pledge To Uphold Roe v. Wade. “The potential retirement of Supreme Court justices makes the 2004 presidential election especially important for women, Senator John F. Kerry told a group of female Democrats yesterday, and he pledged that if elected president he would nominate to the high court only supporters of abortion rights under its Roe v. Wade decision. … ‘Any president ought to appoint people to the Supreme Court who understand the Constitution and its interpretation by the Supreme Court. In my judgment, it is and has been settled law that women, Americans, have a defined right of privacy and that the government does not make the decision with respect to choice. Individuals do.’” (Glen Johnson, “Kerry Vows Court Picks To Be Abortion-Rights Supporters,” The Boston Globe, 4/9/03)[/quote]

Those are just a few.

[url="http://www.georgewbush.com/kerrymediacenter/read.aspx?ID=2439"]http://www.georgewbush.com/kerrymediacente...ad.aspx?ID=2439[/url]

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[quote name='dUSt' date='Jul 22 2004, 04:38 PM'] zwergel88 and shelly_freak,

Are y'all Catholic? If so, you shouldn't vote for Kerry unless you're willing to put yourself in a serious state of sin for supporting abortion. [/quote]
Actually, if they believe that Jesus is the Christ and call themselves Christian, by voting for Kerry they would be sinning because he goes against the highest priority teachings of Christ. Life, morality, etc...


God Bless,
ironmonk

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1337 k4th0l1x0r

I voted for Kerry before I voted against Kerry.

:D :D :D

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WCC_Catholic

[quote name='1337 k4th0l1x0r' date='Jul 22 2004, 03:00 PM'] I voted for Kerry before I voted against Kerry.

:D :D :D [/quote]
i love that one :D :D :D

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EcceNovaFacioOmni

EDIT: I edited my above post to include links to Kerry's stance on each issue listed. (And from a reliable source, the US Senate.)

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[quote name='Paladin D' date='Jul 22 2004, 02:10 PM'] Oh please... at least Bush isn't a hypocrite or a [b]"flip-flop"[/b] politican. [/quote]
I would really beg to differ.

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shelly_freak

[quote]zwergel88 and shelly_freak,

Are y'all Catholic? If so, you shouldn't vote for Kerry unless you're willing to put yourself in a serious state of sin for supporting abortion.[/quote]

This is not a black and white issue, you cant tell me that if I vote for a certain person I'm sinning, cause none of you have the right to say that to me. I was simply stating who I'm voting for cause that's what the thread asks.

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[quote name='shelly_freak' date='Jul 22 2004, 04:14 PM']
This is not a black and white issue, you cant tell me that if I vote for a certain person I'm sinning, cause none of you have the right to say that to me. I was simply stating who I'm voting for cause that's what the thread asks. [/quote]
actually, two bishops in America stated that voting for a pro-choice candidate is a grave sin...



however, Cardinal Ratzinger recently released a letter stating that it is ok to vote for a pro-choice candidate if you are voting for other reasons besides abortion.


in other words, you can vote karey if you are voting for other reasons besides abortion...





in my mind, i feel personally convicted to vote for anyone who supports abortion. i dont care how "bad" the other candidate might be. killing babies = no vote from me.

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