Sicker And Sicker....

[crusader1234]

Hey

I noticed a lot of BIG CAPITAL WRITING and just thought I'd support Jen and say she wasn't ever accusing you of anything.

I think that spanking a child is ok (note: spanking shouldnt leave marks or involve any sort of belt or anything) between the ages of 5 and 9 for a reason: Before 5, kids can't reason and can barely even remember things like having been spanked a month ago, so basically you are just instilling a sense of mistrust and fear in them at an early age which will ruin your relationship. Between 5 and 9 they are at an age where they will remember, and think about it and try to avoid it. After 9, they are at an age where grounding them or taking away priviledges is much more effective and much less strenuous on a relationship.

Hitting wives is obviously never ok, and anywhere other than the bottom for spanking is also pretty harsh.

Catholic and Jesuit schools obviously (in the past) have used the strap and whatever but that was in the past, and studies have been done on it that have proven other ways of discipline more effective. Theres a reason Jesuit schools don't use the strap anymore and its not JUST because of lawsuits.

$0.02

[Lil Red]

[quote name='Norseman82' date='Jul 16 2004, 11:01 PM'] Britney has her brain screwed on backwards. I mean, falling for a guy who already knocked one girl up and has another on the way by someone else? [/quote]
and now that his ex-girlfriend has had her baby, how screwed up are those kids gonna be?! with britney as a step-mom? *shudders* not a great example for your kids.

[MC Just]

[quote name='Lil Red' date='Jul 23 2004, 10:40 AM'] and now that his ex-girlfriend has had her baby, how screwed up are those kids gonna be?! with britney as a step-mom? *shudders* not a great example for your kids. [/quote]
Yea i bet britney had dreams of becoming that.

[catholicguy]

To Good Friday,
I was recently reading the Rule of Saint Benedict and found an interesting statement that disproves what you said earlier. Here is the excerpt:


[b]CHAPTER XLV[/b]
[i]Of Those Who Commit a Fault in the Oratory[/i]

If anyone whilst he reciteth a psalm, a responsory, an antiphon, or a lesson, maketh a mistake, and doth not humble himself there before all by making satisfaction, let him undergo a greater punishment, because he would not correct by humility what he did amiss through negligence. But let children be beaten for such a fault.


Here is just one example that I stumbled across when reading the Rule of Saint Benedict. After reading this it reminded me of your previous comments, so I thought I would post it for you. Saint Benedict commands the beating of children in his Rule (and for something that most people would consider minimal nonetheless).

[crusader1234]

I don't think there was anything innocent about her... she wasnt as hot, does that make her innocent? No... hit me baby one more time? Thats probably the most blatantly 'luu type song.

[mmmerf]

Hitting children is wrong, anything beyond a slap on the butt which doesn't leave a mark.

Punishing children is all-important, but corporal punishment is a cop-out. It is the quick and easy way of punishing your children. Sending them to their room and teaching them the consequences of their actions is necessary. But threatening a child with violence is in itself a form of violence. There are better ways of raising a child. More difficult, but better.

[curtins]

[quote name='conservativecatholic' date='Jul 15 2004, 08:12 PM'] I totally agree, but some parents take the term discipline out of hand. I hate physical abuse! My mother and I tell parents in the grocery store to stop hitting their kids. I absolutely HATE abuse. I cringe at the sight of it. Parents need to be firm and ask where their kids are going. They need to teach them and be stern when necessary. You then have those who just flat-out spoil their kids which is absolutely ridculous. Parents need to be more responsible. [/quote]
agreed- I mean I know kids like my age- 12 or 13 that have like a PORN POSTER in their bedroom its like- wow great parenting. then of course theres the parents that wouldnt give two hoots if the kid was sleepin with a diff girl each nite. PARENTS NEED TO BE STRICT- TEACH RIGHT FROM WRONG, AND SET A GOOD EXAMPLE not hit their kids- I wont hit my kids(God willing I have any) but ill be strict wen nessesary and set out wats right and whats rong

not let kids have carte blanche

and yes armagedon is coming soon

[Guest JeffCR07]

catholicguy, I would like to point out that, while I do think a good spanking is in order from time to time, and - perhaps - something slightly more severe, it would be unintelligent for us to depend solely on the judgements of saints, though they are wonderful sources. Just because St. Benedict is in heaven does not mean he knows the wisest or best way to rear a child.

I submit that it is ultimately up to the discretion of the parent as to how to discipline their child, though I would question the legitimacy of a parent who desires 10 lashes of a belt when 2 could most certainly get the message across.

- Your Brother In Christ, Jeff

[curtins]

im never gonna hit my kids- if they act up i take a way privilages- ill ground them but I could never hit them