ironmonk Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 [b]Spears in Bollywood Film? [/b] Pop star Britney Spears is reportedly in talks to star in the biggest budgeted Bollywood movie in cinema history. Producers want the "Toxic" star to appear opposite Asian actresses Rani Mukherjee, Aishwarya Rai and Pretty Zinta in the story, about Indian girls at Columbia University who fall in love with an all-American - played by Spears - who helps them adjust to western culture in New York. The movie is set to shock traditional Bollywood film fans with its explicit lesbian scenes. ------------------------ [url="http://www.933flz.com/script/headline_newsmanager.php?id=329692&pagecontent=musicnewschrmain&feed_id=26"]http://www.933flz.com/script/headline_news...main&feed_id=26[/url] Doesn't it just seem like our society is running as fast as it can toward the apocalypse? I wish parents would pay attention to the stuff their kids listened to, then people with her influence couldn't get away with that kind of trash. Pray. God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 eww. if she gets enough backlash, though, maybe she'll pull out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 [quote name='ironmonk' date='Jul 15 2004, 02:55 PM'] Doesn't it just seem like our society is running as fast as it can toward the apocalypse? I wish parents would pay attention to the stuff their kids listened to, then people with her influence couldn't get away with that kind of trash. [/quote] Yeah they sure are! As for parents no. i've been hearing things like "they have their own choices" "They have free will" I dont see kids disciplined anymore. All I see is parents either spoiling them or they just let them do whatever. It's so very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conservativecatholic Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 [quote name='ironmonk' date='Jul 15 2004, 02:55 PM'] Doesn't it just seem like our society is running as fast as it can toward the apocalypse? [/quote] You bet it does! It's kind of scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietfire Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 (edited) [quote]We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self esteem.[/quote] Thats why I use duct tape when I babysit. Peace Edited July 15, 2004 by Quietfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conservativecatholic Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 [quote name='MC Just' date='Jul 15 2004, 03:56 PM'] Yeah they sure are! As for parents no. i've been hearing things like "they have their own choices" "They have free will" I dont see kids disciplined anymore. All I see is parents either spoiling them or they just let them do whatever. It's so very sad. [/quote] I totally agree, but some parents take the term discipline out of hand. I hate physical abuse! My mother and I tell parents in the grocery store to stop hitting their kids. I absolutely HATE abuse. I cringe at the sight of it. Parents need to be firm and ask where their kids are going. They need to teach them and be stern when necessary. You then have those who just flat-out spoil their kids which is absolutely ridculous. Parents need to be more responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Blaze Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 NNOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not BOLLYWOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! On a serious note.... yes society is a very sad sight ~S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladybug Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Why am I not surprised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conservativecatholic Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Alexander Tyler, (in his 1770 book, 'Cycle of Democracy' ) "...The average of the world's great civilizations before they decline has been 200 years. These nations have progressed in this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from dependency back again to bondage." What's next for the USA?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted July 16, 2004 Author Share Posted July 16, 2004 [quote name='conservativecatholic' date='Jul 15 2004, 09:12 PM'] I totally agree, but some parents take the term discipline out of hand. I hate physical abuse! My mother and I tell parents in the grocery store to stop hitting their kids. I absolutely HATE abuse. I cringe at the sight of it. Parents need to be firm and ask where their kids are going. They need to teach them and be stern when necessary. You then have those who just flat-out spoil their kids which is absolutely ridculous. Parents need to be more responsible. [/quote] Spanking a child is NOT physical abuse. God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusader1234 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Spanking with the hand on the rear end once or twice without extreme force is not abuse. Hitting a kid anywhere else or using a strap or stick is abuse. Hitting a child younger than 5 or older than 8 is abuse. Thats just my opinion though. As for this movie, theres one problem: Aishwarya Rai refused to appear nude in any movies, nevermind making out with Britney Spears in explicit scenes. Another problem: Aishwarya Rai is so good looking she would make Britney Spears look like a dog with hemmerhoids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catholicguy Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 [quote]Spanking with the hand on the rear end once or twice without extreme force is not abuse. Hitting a kid anywhere else or using a strap or stick is abuse. Hitting a child younger than 5 or older than 8 is abuse. Thats just my opinion though.[/quote] I know this is just your opinion, but this is madness. You may as well accuse every Catholic school before 1965 of abusing children. Children are taught discipline by not only being spanked but by being beaten. I got the belt from my grandfather when I was still in the crib (I think I was two years old); I do not think that this is the best form of punishment for a child that young, but it is certainly not wrong. My dad gave me the belt, too, when I got older and until I was about 10 or so (it should've been longer, and I could've avoided my "pagan" years in middle school and early high school). We never actually got the buckle, but my dad always threatened with it. He got the buckle regularly, and he is the most self-disciplined, controlled, and patient person I know. I am one of the few disciplined people that I know (other than Traditional Catholics; well, I may be the only one). The only way to punish a young child is to spank him. Spanking with a belt, or a stick, or a paddle, or a spoon is not abuse. This is discipline. You obviously did not go to Catholic school before the 60s (neither did I, of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Friday Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 [quote name='catholicguy']The only way to punish a young child is to spank him. Spanking with a belt, or a stick, or a paddle, or a spoon is not abuse. This is discipline. You obviously did not go to Catholic school before the 60s (neither did I, of course).[/quote] I just don't even know what to say to that. I think I'll go with the, "Have you [i]heard[/i] of Jesus?" response... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catholicguy Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Apparently no one in the entire world had heard of him until the 70s then. What kind of statement is that? This is something supported not only by Church history but also by the Bible itself and the history of the human race! What you believe is called the "Hippie figure" of Jesus. This is the belief that He simply walked the earth preaching "peace and love" and "I'm a lover not a fighter". This kind of image is not only erroneous, but it is blasphemous. Discipline is a basic tenet of society itself. All the Saints disciplined themselves by strict physical punishments (imagine how much more a disobedient child deserves it!). The kind of nonsense "non-violent" means of achieving discipline are not only unsuccessful, but they are erroneous. It is wrong to teach children that physical force and punishment is not justice. We see this justice even for adults by the death penalty. We see this taught in the Bible "eye will go for eye and tooth for tooth". We see this throughout Church history not only by the example of the Saints upon but also by all parents until Modernism entered the Church and feminism (as well as other radical forms of liberalism) entered the world. This lack of discipline (which is caused in part by anti-corporal punishment tactics) has been one of the major causes in the downfall of society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted July 16, 2004 Author Share Posted July 16, 2004 Spanking doesn't always have to be used, but if the threat is given, it must be followed through. A child can be spanked and it not physically hurt at all, but they learn humility. Around 2 to about 9 or 10, by 9 or 10 other means of punishment might work better because they can now reason. Sometimes a smack across the mouth (not hard) but enough to startle is needed. I will discipline the way my parents did me. It worked very well.[list] [*]Never hit a child in anger. [*]Make the child "think about what they did" in the bathroom and wait for the spanking [*]Hit "only" on the butt, except when a slight smack on the face is needed, only enough force to startle, not enough to leave a mark [*]Explain why the child is getting spanked [*]Tell them it's going to hurt you more than it will hurt them [*]Tell them you are doing it because you love them and want them to be good [*]Hug and kiss them afterward and ask them if they'll be good from now on [/list] God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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