Trad wife movement vs working wives

[chrysostom]

On 3/12/2025 at 8:07 PM, Hna.Caridad said:

Personally, I find it ironic that these so-called "trad-wives" are raking in cash hand-over-fist by going on social media

I agree that making your own home life into a type of reality show for influence, likes, and money is in fact at odds with the ideals that traditional homemaking represents. It is not surprising that people find this hypocritical - social media tends to rot everything it touches!

Yet the ideals themselves remain, and would remain even if it were not fashionable.

[little2add]

Trad wife movement vs working wives?

BTW: the notion that a traditional wife doesn't work is preposterous.  Just because she doesn't bring home a paycheck does it mean that she's sitting on the couch all day eating bonbons. 

The so-called tradwife life, is a lot harder to do than going to the office for eight hours.  Hard but very rewarding, you get to raise your children instead of a stranger raising your children! , for instance.  

The idea that stay at home mom doesn't work is insulting and nonsense.

a tradwife life was once the norm, and if you ask me was much more civilized than today's lifestyle - choices...

Edited March 18 by little2add

[Norseman82]

On 3/15/2025 at 8:09 PM, Anastasia13 said:

If you marry expecting to separate, you should not get married.

There is a difference between "expecting to separate" versus protecting yourself in case one's spouse is no longer around.  A spouse can die or become disabled or be an innocent victim of a separation.  What then?  

[little2add]

On 3/24/2025 at 9:09 PM, Norseman82 said:

A spouse can die

Till death do us part, is really only a half truth!   BTW

 

 

[Anastasia13]

On 3/25/2025 at 6:39 AM, Norseman82 said:

There is a difference between "expecting to separate" versus protecting yourself in case one's spouse is no longer around.  A spouse can die or become disabled or be an innocent victim of a separation.  What then?  

That’s exactly my thinking. I see this trend with these women who will be totally unprepared if that happens. The only thing they have going for them is their social media and hopefully life insurance.

[little2add]

3 hours ago, Anastasia13 said:

That’s exactly my thinking. I see this trend with these women who will be totally unprepared if that happens. The only thing they have going for them is their social media and hopefully life insurance.

Hence, the importance of the sacrament of holy matrimony.  

[Anastasia13]

3 hours ago, little2add said:

Hence, the importance of the sacrament of holy matrimony.  

I don’t understand. What does saying this have to do either with them being prepared if they become widows?

[little2add]

22 hours ago, Anastasia13 said:

I don’t understand. What does saying this have to do either with them being prepared if they become widows?

Is it possible that the quality of life has diminished over the last 50 years because of the decline in religious principles, particularly the importance of holy matrimony.

after all, Approximately 40% of all births in the U.S. in 2020 were to unmarried women.  The percentage of children born out of wedlock in 1960 was approximately 5%.

Is this a statistic anomaly or something else?

[tinytherese]

On 4/12/2025 at 6:58 PM, little2add said:

Is it possible that the quality of life has diminished over the last 50 years because of the decline in religious principles, particularly the importance of holy matrimony.

after all, Approximately 40% of all births in the U.S. in 2020 were to unmarried women.  The percentage of children born out of wedlock in 1960 was approximately 5%.

Is this a statistic anomaly or something else?

So husbands die because unmarried women get pregnant? That doesn't make any sense.

Here's a comment I wrote in response to a blog.

SAHM stands for stay at home mom.

 

https://overapplesandroses.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-past-is-foreign-country.html

Tiny Therese

Many people don’t realize that rich women in the past not only had servants to cook and clean, but governesses as well so that they could focus on running the household and being attentive hostesses to guests. Some women in Jane Austen’s time ran boarding schools for girls. Women worked in factories during the Industrial Revolution.

The Bible itself doesn’t insist that all women be SAHM. Exodus 1:15-22 cites that women were midwives and even stood up to the Pharaoh who ordered them to murder baby boys. “And because the midwives feared God he gave them families” (21). Proverbs 31:10-31 praise wives who make money on the side.

Lots of college or university graduates, especially in the U.S. have school debt that takes them decades to pay off. So having a housewife isn’t very practical. The employment world isn’t what it used to be.

One grandpa of mine didn’t finish high school but took on an apprenticeship to become a plumber’s assistant. He supported himself, his wife, and three kids without my grandma needing to work outside the home. My other grandpa graduated from high school, did one year of technical school, and made a living doing engineering work. He also supported himself, his wife, and three kids without my grandma needing to work outside the home.

Not every woman is cut out to be a SAHM. Wives may resent their husbands and kids if it isn’t for them. Their families will likely pick up on it. We don’t want kids growing up thinking that they’re burdens. We also don’t want women to think that they must choose between motherhood and their dreams. How many pro-choice advocates claim that babies will get in the way of women having fulfilling lives?

SAHMs with degrees are often accused of wasting their education or that they do nothing all day. Why they don’t consider cooking, cleaning, and caring for kids work is beyond me. Cooks, maids, janitors, day care workers, babysitters, and nannies are paid to do such tasks. I encountered a man who insisted that housewives were leeches, living off their husband’s money instead of working.

[tinytherese]

21 minutes ago, tinytherese said:

So husbands die because unmarried women get pregnant? That doesn't make any sense.

Here's a comment I wrote in response to a blog.

SAHM stands for stay at home mom.

That reply and that blog quote reference were two separate posts that got unexpectedly merged. I tried to fix it, but I wasn't permitted to edit that.

Edited Monday at 05:29 PM by tinytherese

[little2add]

3 hours ago, tinytherese said:

That doesn't make any sense.

yes

[little2add]

On 4/11/2025 at 9:42 PM, Anastasia13 said:

What does saying this have to do either with them being prepared if they become widows?

Everything!  Life is a struggle, no matter what your status in life is.  Single, married, divorced or separated, rich or poor.   Life's a beesh  and then you die.

My spouse had my back and I had hers, we lived paycheck to paycheck and raised three beautiful children.  My spouse passed away, sometime ago, and I have never been the same if it wasn't for my children and grandchildren, I would have surely died from despair.

I feel that at least in my case, holy matrimony truly saved my life.

BTW: my spouse was a SAHM

[tinytherese]

3 hours ago, little2add said:

Everything!  Life is a struggle, no matter what your status in life is.  Single, married, divorced or separated, rich or poor.   Life's a beesh  and then you die.

My spouse had my back and I had hers, we lived paycheck to paycheck and raised three beautiful children.  My spouse passed away, sometime ago, and I have never been the same if it wasn't for my children and grandchildren, I would have surely died from despair.

I feel that at least in my case, holy matrimony truly saved my life.

BTW: my spouse was a SAHM

I still don't understand. Unmarried women get pregnant. This makes husbands die for some reason.  So in conclusion, wives shouldn't have careers in case their husbands die. I don't see any logic in these claims. 

No one in this thread is saying that marriage is bad. What we're debating is whether wives should be able to have careers. Someone brought up that not having a career is a problem if a woman's husband dies. How will she financially support herself and any children?

[little2add]

Motherhood is a career.

No one (including myself) in this thread is saying that having a career is bad, either.  

In fact, nearly all the families with children (I know) today, both spouses have to work in order to make ends meet.  

What are boils down to , is priorities and the quality of your life? 

Edited yesterday at 02:22 AM by little2add

[Norseman82]

On 4/16/2025 at 5:48 PM, little2add said:

Everything!  Life is a struggle, no matter what your status in life is.  Single, married, divorced or separated, rich or poor.   Life's a beesh  and then you die.

My spouse had my back and I had hers, we lived paycheck to paycheck and raised three beautiful children.  My spouse passed away, sometime ago, and I have never been the same if it wasn't for my children and grandchildren, I would have surely died from despair.

I feel that at least in my case, holy matrimony truly saved my life.

BTW: my spouse was a SAHM

But what if it were YOU who had passed away leaving behind your wife and three children while they were still young (say pre-teens)?