Machine_Washable Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 During pride there were a few instances of teachers being recorded while scolding Muslim students for skipping pride events. Here is an example. Listening to this video make me think about phatmass. Here in Canada all the Church’s seems to have rainbow flags. I know there are Christians who oppose this agenda. But is it a widespread opposition? Can Muslims and Christians join together to fight this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Christians/Catholics have more common ground with muslims than the we do with the woke mob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Abortion is condemned by all world religions, including Islam. Islam goes to great lengths to protect the sanctity of all human life and views the practice of abortion as tantamount to taking the life of another human being. However, under the condition that a mother’s life or health being is jeopardized by giving birth, Islam grants greater right to the mother and abortion is permissible. The Holy Quran forbids abortions due to a fear of financial strain. In chapter 17, verse 32, God says: “Kill not your children for fear of poverty. It is We Who provide for them and for you. Surely, the killing of them is a great sin.” Reducing the honourable process of reproduction to an economic choice nullifies one of the main purposes of the institution of marriage and is against the spirit of Islamic teachings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Back to the original story... it show the 'tolerance' of the 'woke'... If you do not take part in our 'religion' you are despicable; no exceptions, no excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine_Washable Posted September 27, 2023 Author Share Posted September 27, 2023 On 8/8/2023 at 9:38 AM, Didacus said: Christians/Catholics have more common ground with muslims than the we do with the woke mob. I agree. We share a rejection of modernity. Which provides a lot of common ground in these times. On 8/8/2023 at 5:10 PM, little2add said: Abortion is condemned by all world religions, including Islam. Islam goes to great lengths to protect the sanctity of all human life and views the practice of abortion as tantamount to taking the life of another human being. However, under the condition that a mother’s life or health being is jeopardized by giving birth, Islam grants greater right to the mother and abortion is permissible. The Holy Quran forbids abortions due to a fear of financial strain. In chapter 17, verse 32, God says: “Kill not your children for fear of poverty. It is We Who provide for them and for you. Surely, the killing of them is a great sin.” Reducing the honourable process of reproduction to an economic choice nullifies one of the main purposes of the institution of marriage and is against the spirit of Islamic teachings. Abortion is not allowed after 120 days by consensus. Abortion is allowed prior to 40 days under some circumstances if both parents agree. From day 42 to 119 it is a matter of dispute within the madhabs. At no point should it be approached trivially. On 8/9/2023 at 8:09 AM, Didacus said: Back to the original story... it show the 'tolerance' of the 'woke'... If you do not take part in our 'religion' you are despicable; no exceptions, no excuses. Yes. I have seen many racist comments from liberals on twitter during these recent times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 30 minutes ago, Machine_Washable said: At no point should it be approached trivially. what ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine_Washable Posted September 27, 2023 Author Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, little2add said: what ? Even before ensoulment happens you cannot have an abortion because you simply do not want a child. https://seekersguidance.org/answers/hanafi-fiqh/when-is-having-an-abortion-permitted This author writes from a Hanafi perspective. This is the madhab that is the most liberal on abortion. The Malaki madhab and the Shia believe it is murder from the point of conception onward. The Hanbali and Shafi’i take different positions and differentiate between it being sinful at any point without a valid reason (the life of the mother) prior to ensoulment and murder after. ibn Taymiyyah, probably the most influential sheikh since the four great imams, said it was murder and no different than infantacide. Edited September 27, 2023 by Machine_Washable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides' Jack Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Modernism has clearly infiltrated Christianity and the Catholic Church to a huge degree. I'm completely ignorant of Islamic morality, though. Has the Islamic religion managed to avoid modernism and now the woke mentality? Or is it, too, infiltrated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 6 hours ago, little2add said: you For clarifying. 14 hours ago, Machine_Washable said: Abortion is not allowed after 120 days So 18 weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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