The Experimental Jab video

[fides' Jack]

Deleted. 

[dUSt]

Deleted. I’m going to just start deleting these that are not posted in your anti-vac thread. Banning after that

[little2add]

11 hours ago, dUSt said:

Deleted. I’m going to just start deleting these that are not posted in your anti-vac thread. Banning after that

 

[dUSt]

20 hours ago, fides' Jack said:

It's not my anti-vax thread.

Why banning?  Is there a rule I'm breaking?

Yes. Spam. 

[fides' Jack]

8 hours ago, dUSt said:

Yes. Spam. 

What definition of spam?  Honestly I'd like to know.

I'm posting out of a genuine concern not just for people's lives, but also people's souls, both of which are in danger.

But I respect that you are in charge of PM.  So I'd very much like to know how you define spam.

[little2add]

32 minutes ago, fides' Jack said:

define spam.

Spam (Verb)

The act of obnoxiously doing something repeatedly for attention or in order to disturb others.

 

[fides' Jack]

5 minutes ago, little2add said:

Spam (Verb)

The act of obnoxiously doing something repeatedly for attention or in order to disturb others.

 

For who's attention?  For attention of anything?  What about attention to Christ?

4 minutes ago, fides' Jack said:

or in order to disturb others.

What about the ultimate goal of the sanctification of souls?  Are we going to ban anything remotely "fire-and-brimstone"?  That certainly qualifies in this definition.

Honestly, I asked for @dUSt's definition.  Of course, he doesn't even have to provide that.  Or he could decide to just go with your definition, which lacks enough specificity that half of all posts would qualify if you stretched the meaning just a bit.  Or he could decide to just make up his own definition.  Any of those options are at his disposal, I suppose.

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To add a little clarification - I get it.  People are more than bored with this subject.  They're irritated with it, and nothing is changing, it seems.  As someone else posted in another thread, people who were going to get it, got it, and people who are not going to get it, didn't.

But that attitude betrays belief and opinion.  People are dying, and the longer time goes the more people are dying. It's only a matter of time before they can't hide it anymore, even from those who are blinded.

With everything going on in the world right now, very little else matters, except to warn people of the tricks of satan and to repent, and to prepare.  And maybe, just maybe, because I chose to ignore an invitation (not even a request, let alone an order) to only post about it in one thread, one single person ends up seeing it when they might not have otherwise, and as a result they utter one more single prayer which gives God one more iota of praise, and then I get banned - it would be worth it.

Edited September 22, 2022 by fides' Jack
Separation of thoughts

[fides' Jack]

I was thinking about this a bit more, and came up with a possible solution. 

Clearly people are done with my posting anti-covid-vax (and have been for two years).  And my doing so is not conducive to peace on this forum.  I believe it's not always necessary for everything to be completely peaceful, but it is certainly preferable.  

Despite appearances, I do have quite a lot of respect for @dUSt, for PM, and for the other posters on PM.  I do disagree vociferously (for strongly-believed reasons) with many others here, on many subjects.  It really doesn't matter what his definition of the word "spam" is, because frankly, I would respect his position as the owner of the forum even if he said, "my definition of spam is whatever I say it is".  That would be enough for me.

I also recognize that nothing I can possibly say will move anyone to anything.  People can and do change, even from ramblings on the internet, but if it's a good change, then the original source and inspiration for that change can only be God, and certainly not from me (though I pray He would work through me, I seriously doubt I'm anywhere close to holy enough for that to actually happen).  

All that being said, I will promise never to post anything again on PM about covid shots, good or bad, and we can let the mega-thread fade away, if those who want me to shut up about it agree to the following:

1. To say a single prayer, just 10 seconds is enough, for God to open their eyes to the truth regarding covid, the vaccines, the whole pandemic, the response to it, and just all the major events going on in the world today.  (I've been doing this throughout this time, and no matter what anyone's position is, they should be doing it too)
2. In the seemingly impossible chance that God does reveal to them the covid shots or masks or shutdowns were bad after all (whether that happens immediately after praying or 10 years down the line), that they will take up the fight and bring up their own concerns here and elsewhere.  If it never happens they don't have to worry about it.  And if it so happens that doing so would be risky for them or their families in any kind of physical or spiritual way, I would not hold them to this part of the agreement.

[cruciatacara]

10 hours ago, fides' Jack said:

I was thinking about this a bit more, and came up with a possible solution. 

Clearly people are done with my posting anti-covid-vax (and have been for two years).  And my doing so is not conducive to peace on this forum.  I believe it's not always necessary for everything to be completely peaceful, but it is certainly preferable.  

Despite appearances, I do have quite a lot of respect for @dUSt, for PM, and for the other posters on PM.  I do disagree vociferously (for strongly-believed reasons) with many others here, on many subjects.  It really doesn't matter what his definition of the word "spam" is, because frankly, I would respect his position as the owner of the forum even if he said, "my definition of spam is whatever I say it is".  That would be enough for me.

I also recognize that nothing I can possibly say will move anyone to anything.  People can and do change, even from ramblings on the internet, but if it's a good change, then the original source and inspiration for that change can only be God, and certainly not from me (though I pray He would work through me, I seriously doubt I'm anywhere close to holy enough for that to actually happen).  

All that being said, I will promise never to post anything again on PM about covid shots, good or bad, and we can let the mega-thread fade away, if those who want me to shut up about it agree to the following:

1. To say a single prayer, just 10 seconds is enough, for God to open their eyes to the truth regarding covid, the vaccines, the whole pandemic, the response to it, and just all the major events going on in the world today.  (I've been doing this throughout this time, and no matter what anyone's position is, they should be doing it too)
2. In the seemingly impossible chance that God does reveal to them the covid shots or masks or shutdowns were bad after all (whether that happens immediately after praying or 10 years down the line), that they will take up the fight and bring up their own concerns here and elsewhere.  If it never happens they don't have to worry about it.  And if it so happens that doing so would be risky for them or their families in any kind of physical or spiritual way, I would not hold them to this part of the agreement.

I don't agree to any of your terms because they are basically a threat. You say that you will stop your posts IF (and only if?) people do as you say. This is not holy nor is it even common sense. I have prayers that I say every day and yet I don't try to force others to pray for the same things I do.

You allow for no possibility that perhaps you are wrong in your opinions and therefore don't allow others to disagree with you. I consider it holy that scientists have developed vaccines to help prevent and/or reduce instances of things like smallpox, polio, flue, pneumonia, shingles, and yes, COVID. I lived through the time of polio when children were living in iron lungs and those who survived did so with braces on their legs. Thank God I didn't live through the times of smallpox when people died horrible deaths.

But I have also lived through the time of COVID, when so many people died of respiratory problems, gasping for air when they ran out of ventilators. I welcomed the vaccine and still do.

I have no problem with anyone who believes that vaccines are bad, or who doesn't want to receive vaccines, but I will never agree that they are right for those who want them, like myself. Your attempt to force people to pray your way is not holy - it is arrogance and pride in your opinions. Bad form.

I will pray every day for God to open your eyes to the possibility that there are good things in science that can help humanity crawl out of the dark ages of medicine when plagues caused major deaths and destruction. If it doesn't happen, so be it, but hopefully God will show you that science and faith can live in harmony.

 

 

 

[fides' Jack]

On 9/23/2022 at 9:22 PM, cruciatacara said:

Your attempt to force people to pray your way is not holy - it is arrogance and pride in your opinions. Bad form.

So be it.

 

[little2add]

On 9/25/2022 at 3:09 PM, fides' Jack said:

So be it.