ACatholicWifesLife3 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 I hope I am starting this right, I am new here.. 1)I was wondering if anyone else veils during Mass? I am the only one that veils at mine... 2nd) Am I the only one that thinks they should bring veiling back? Pax Christi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerOneTwo Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 My wife veils, and my 8- and 7-year old daughters do when they remember to bring them. It's relatively common at my parish, although by no means universal. Probably ~25% of women. I'm seeing it far more in the younger generations than the older ones. A lot of the women who veil are mothers of small children, so in their 30s generally. A lot of the teenage girls do as well, although it's not quite as common. Older women almost never veil in my parish. I don't know if my parish is representative but it certainly suggests a resurgence of the practice after the Boomers abandoned so much of our rich tradition and symbolism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 "... after the Boomers abandoned so much of our rich tradition and symbolism." Casting broad brush aspersions on an entire generation of your brothers and sister in Christ. How very charitable of you. I will take you as my model of Christianity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACatholicWifesLife3 Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 I go to Norvus Ordo ,there is no TLM around me without being gone over 6 hours each time I'd attend. I how ever adhear to alot of the TLM.. Son and I converted in 2919 although I watch Motger Angelica long before finally converting.. I think tradition is very important... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACatholicWifesLife3 Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 *2019 oops lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 8 hours ago, ACatholicWifesLife3 said: I go to Norvus Ordo ,there is no TLM around me without being gone over 6 hours each time I'd attend. I how ever adhear to alot of the TLM.. Son and I converted in 2919 although I watch Motger Angelica long before finally converting.. I think tradition is very important... I think tradition is important, too. But it wasn't The Boomers who all secretly got together and decided to "abandon so much rich tradition." It was the Pope and all the Cardinals - and by the way, none of them were The Boomers; they were all at least two generations older than The Boomers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACatholicWifesLife3 Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 8 hours ago, Luigi said: "... after the Boomers abandoned so much of our rich tradition and symbolism." Casting broad brush aspersions on an entire generation of your brothers and sister in Christ. How very charitable of you. I will take you as my model of Christianity. I just do not understand the Pope's thinking and actions on this..don't they understand they are hurting the Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunsuch Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 11 hours ago, ACatholicWifesLife3 said: I just do not understand the Pope's thinking and actions on this..don't they understand they are hurting the Church. Many, many Catholics obviously disagree with you, including much (most? nearly all) of the hierarchy. And they've been Catholic a lot longer than 3 years. It is fine to express an opinion, but please do not state it as some kind of indisputable truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACatholicWifesLife3 Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Nunsuch said: Many, many Catholics obviously disagree with you, including much (most? nearly all) of the hierarchy. And they've been Catholic a lot longer than 3 years. It is fine to express an opinion, but please do not state it as some kind of indisputable truth. What I was referring to was posting one youtuber that use to be Novus Ordo, then because she had to wear mask started going to TLM then coming back to me saying I was NOT a true catholic since I am only able to go to novus ordo and stating I need to stop going to Mass because I don't go to TLM so I stood up for myself and others who have NO Latin Mass around me , and disagreed with her saying I do not go by Novus Ordo nor Traditional Catholic but I am a PROUD Catholic and she became defensive which to.me is ridiculous 12 hours ago, Luigi said: I think tradition is important, too. But it wasn't The Boomers who all secretly got together and decided to "abandon so much rich tradition." It was the Pope and all the Cardinals - and by the way, none of them were The Boomers; they were all at least two generations older than The Boomers. Luigi I have a question. I do not recite the Luminous Mystery, and am trying to find an app [I do not have an apple phone and go through Google playstore..] I am looking for a good Rosary app to do the Daily Rosary, I know the Devine Mercy by heart..but would love an app so I can do the Joyful Mystery, Glorious Mystery, Sorrowful Mystery through an app. 8 minutes ago, Nunsuch said: Many, many Catholics obviously disagree with you, including much (most? nearly all) of the hierarchy. And they've been Catholic a lot longer than 3 years. It is fine to express an opinion, but please do not state it as some kind of indisputable truth. What I was referring to was posting one youtuber that use to be Novus Ordo, then because she had to wear mask started going to TLM then coming back to me saying I was NOT a true catholic since I am only able to go to novus ordo and stating I need to stop going to Mass because I don't go to TLM so I stood up for myself and others who have NO Latin Mass around me , and disagreed with her saying I do not go by Novus Ordo nor Traditional Catholic but I am a PROUD Catholic and she became defensive which to.me is ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides' Jack Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 On 2/4/2022 at 10:05 PM, Luigi said: "... after the Boomers abandoned so much of our rich tradition and symbolism." Casting broad brush aspersions on an entire generation of your brothers and sister in Christ. How very charitable of you. I will take you as my model of Christianity. It's a generalization, and a true one. It would be un-Christian if he were to single out specific people. Each generation can be known by a specific virtue or vice (or both). Millennials are beyond "very lazy". Boomers did abandon a whole lot of tradition, but it was their parents' generation who set them up for failure by not teaching them the value of suffering, and instead teaching them to abhor suffering. The so-called "greatest generation" started us down this path. On 2/5/2022 at 7:04 PM, Nunsuch said: Many, many Catholics obviously disagree with you, including much (most? nearly all) of the hierarchy. And they've been Catholic a lot longer than 3 years. It is fine to express an opinion, but please do not state it as some kind of indisputable truth. The amount of time someone has been "Catholic" doesn't mean squat as to their understanding, anymore. And, unfortunately, having credentials is now a greater indication that they don't know what they're talking about. A 7-year-old who has memorized the Baltimore Catechism is probably in a better place, theologically, than many bishops. On 2/4/2022 at 11:02 AM, ACatholicWifesLife3 said: I hope I am starting this right, I am new here.. 1)I was wondering if anyone else veils during Mass? I am the only one that veils at mine... 2nd) Am I the only one that thinks they should bring veiling back? Pax Christi My wife covers her head, and in our parish the number of women who do so is growing. Some have hesitated. Some have started again who used to do so and stopped for various reasons. It's inspiring to see women do this, and I honestly (naturally) have more respect for women who do. If they choose not to I don't hold it against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunsuch Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 18 minutes ago, fides' Jack said: It's a generalization, and a true one. It would be un-Christian if he were to single out specific people. Each generation can be known by a specific virtue or vice (or both). Millennials are beyond "very lazy". Boomers did abandon a whole lot of tradition, but it was their parents' generation who set them up for failure by not teaching them the value of suffering, and instead teaching them to abhor suffering. The so-called "greatest generation" started us down this path. The amount of time someone has been "Catholic" doesn't mean squat as to their understanding, anymore. And, unfortunately, having credentials is now a greater indication that they don't know what they're talking about. A 7-year-old who has memorized the Baltimore Catechism is probably in a better place, theologically, than many bishops. My wife covers her head, and in our parish the number of women who do so is growing. Some have hesitated. Some have started again who used to do so and stopped for various reasons. It's inspiring to see women do this, and I honestly (naturally) have more respect for women who do. If they choose not to I don't hold it against them. Well, aren't YOU the generous soul. I'm sure the vast majority of women in the world are deeply grateful that you will "allow" them to wear what they choose. And memorizing anything, including the outdated Baltimore Catechism, is certainly no indication of actual faith, or belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides' Jack Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Nunsuch said: Well, aren't YOU the generous soul. I'm sure the vast majority of women in the world are deeply grateful that you will "allow" them to wear what they choose. And memorizing anything, including the outdated Baltimore Catechism, is certainly no indication of actual faith, or belief. I didn't use the word "allow". You did. Feminism is one of the greatest evils of our time. A Catholic with a well-formed conscience would know that. At 7 years old, absolutely reciting memorized questions/answers is indicative of actual faith. It's not proof, but it's about the best indication you can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunsuch Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, fides' Jack said: I didn't use the word "allow". You did. Feminism is one of the greatest evils of our time. A Catholic with a well-formed conscience would know that. At 7 years old, absolutely reciting memorized questions/answers is indicative of actual faith. It's not proof, but it's about the best indication you can get. Feminism is worse than war, poverty, hatred, racism, greed, violence--and misogyny? This proud feminist disagrees. And I'll listen to my confessor about my conscience, not some anonymous ranter on Facebook. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. Sheesh! Edited February 8, 2022 by Nunsuch Edited word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides' Jack Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Nunsuch said: Feminism is worse than war, poverty, hatred, racism, greed, and violence? This proud feminist disagrees. And I'll listen to my confessor about my conscience, not some anonymous ranter on Facebook. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. Sheesh! Feminism is the cause of much war, poverty, hatred, racism, greed, and violence. Most especially hatred, racism, greed, and violence. So absolutely it is a greater evil than any of those things, individually. You won't be excused from your radicalism when you meet your maker just because you listened to your confessor who did nothing to curb your prideful, feminist attitudes. You have a duty to find a good confessor. I mean, socialism has been condemned by the Church too. That'd be like me saying, "I'm a proud socialist". How can you be proud to be at odds with Holy Mother the Church? I don't understand... I will pray for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Groovy vibes my dudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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