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shelly_freak

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Reasons I didn't see Fahrenheit 9/11

1. Michael Moore wrote it
2. Saw Bowling for Columbine, didn't care to see the sequel
3. Don't like movies that promote biased hate

I don't care for MM's type of investigative journalism moivemaking.

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Someguynamedmatt

well i didn't see it because I heard that it's, as my history prof would say, "a load of what the bull left in the pasture." i don't mind listening to what the guy has to say but i'm not going to give him money to hear it.

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I haven't seen this movie yet, but it's certainly a movie I want to see. I won't know how I feel about it until I see it. But, I do know that I don't support the Iraqi War, so I doubt I'll feel radically different. It seems to me that Moore has a knack for hyperbole, and I think his all too obvious bias might get on my nerves a tiny bit.

God bless,

Jen

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[quote name='Jake Huether' date='Jul 13 2004, 11:18 AM'] Abortion / Gay marriage 2004
!ALL THE WAY! [/quote]
Couldn't have said it better myself, Jake. :) I don't know an exact statistic off the top of my head, but I think around one million children are killed by abortion each year. Kerry'll need more than a million votes to win this election, so I'm figuring that those who vote for Kerry will [b]each[/b] have the blood of a couple of babies on their hands. It sounds harsh, but it's true.

God bless,

Jen

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Someguynamedmatt

[quote name='Jake Huether' date='Jul 13 2004, 09:18 AM']


Abortion / Gay marriage 2004
!ALL THE WAY! [/quote]
I hate to break it to everyone, but Bush really doesn't give a carp about abortion. He's not going to try to stop abortion because it would be political suicide, so that really shouldn't even factor into your vote this november.

As for gay marriage, regardless of its morality or immorality, it would be unconstitutional to continue its ban. It is not the government's job to protect the sanctity of marriage... after all, 50% of marriages end in divorce, so clearly they are not protecting marriage in the first place.[u] It is the CHURCH'S job to protect the sanctity of marriage, and it has done so well.[/u] So let the courts marry all the gay people they want, their marriage won't be valid in the eyes of the church anyway.

That being said, I am a Catholic Republican voting for Kerry in 2004
Catholic
Conservative
Republican
Realist

PEACE 2004
ALL THE WAY

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Circle_Master

Good signature BeenaBobba. I'm also glad that there seems to be some people with common sense that are refuting the dingus's who said MM is a genius and spoke a lot of truth. (dingus is an endearing term, not condescending. I call my friends it all the time!)

The movie is *extremely* bias and has many many half truths. It's almost like using statistics to prove cause and effect. It can look true but be 100% a lie.

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Circle_Master

[quote name='Someguynamedmatt' date='Jul 13 2004, 11:49 AM'] Bush really doesn't give a carp about abortion. He's not going to try to stop abortion because it would be political suicide, so that really shouldn't even factor into your vote this november. [/quote]
Did you forget about this a while ago? Bush has done numerous other things during his term as well that deal with abortion. Get your info right...

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Someguynamedmatt

ok i won't continue debating but i will say that the article you posted was from his first day in office and he has done nothing since. Surely if he was going to pursue anti-abortion legislation it would be part of his campaign platform since he has decided to run on moral character alone

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actually, i was suggesting that someone move this to the debate table.

carry on, by all means.

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Someguynamedmatt

[quote name='Lil Red' date='Jul 13 2004, 11:36 AM'] actually, i was suggesting that someone move this to the debate table.

carry on, by all means. [/quote]
well that's fine, but as i seem to have helped carry this thread into a completely diff topic, i'm done debating.

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Jake Huether

Bush is the better candidate. He is against abortion whether he does nothing or something. He is against gay marriage wheter he does something or nothing. On the flip side of the coin we have Karry who WILL do something and that being allowing abortion to continue and allowing gay marriage to continue.

I'd rather have someone do nothing and be morally sound, then to have someone activly pursuing and supporting immoral issues.

Americans are in a downward spiral. We do not know what's best for us. We don't need a representative who is going to give us what we want when that will only kill us. We need a representative who will give us what we NEED.

Kerry may give us what we want, but Bush is fighting for what we need.



And you are quite wrong about it being the Churches duty to uphold the sanctity of marriage. A marriage isn't administerd by the Church. It is administered by us, and overseen by the Church. As the administraters of this Sacrament it is OUR duty to uphold the sancitity of it. And therefore, we need to vote in representatives who will uphold it for us. It is your duty to uphold the sanctity of marriage, and by voting for Kerry, you are not doing your duty.

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shelly_freak

[quote]Abortion / Gay marriage 2004
!ALL THE WAY! [/quote]

well think of how many people are being killed in a war we dont have to be in versus what kerry might do to stop it, yes abortion is wrong but more innocent lives are dying in this war than would with abortion.

i didnt take everything moore said as hard fact, it raised some points that alot of people were oblivious about.

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