Beauty pageants

[Peace]

21 hours ago, Nunsuch said:

I'm far more concerned with the steroids and other problematic "supplements" that body builders feel compelled to take. They are dangerous (and, in many cases, illegal).

Yeah this is a valid issue with those competitions. There are true natural bodybuilders though, which of course never get as big as most of the freaks you see on stage.

12 hours ago, Nunsuch said:

Also, frankly, as a woman, I find men with overly developed musculature to be really UNattractive, and so I'm unlikely either to watch or to be "tempted" by such individuals. 

Its not even a look that most men would aspire to either, honestly. The legs on those dudes are way too big. Almost freakish.

But trying to attain that "David" physique? I'm pretty sure most people all around agree that its beautiful.

12 hours ago, PadrePio said:

I guess you are a woman , when you say you are more concerned with steroids, you find it less problematic  compared to  seeing men in their underwear?

Perhaps that explains the difference b/w men and women. I guess for most men a women in her 80% revealing bikini is a source for mortal sin

 

10 hours ago, Luigi said:

Psychologists have looked into the differences between men looking at women and women looking at men. It's been a long time since I read it, and I can't quote any sources, although I think they'd be readily available on the Internet, perhaps in academic databases. Anyway, "the assumption that men respond more to visual sexual stimuli is generally empirically supported." I did find that on the Internet very quickly and easily, and there's a lot more where that came from. 

Modesty is important for both sexes, but the responses are not identical. In other words, apparently immodesty is more of a challenge, or the near occasion of sin, for men than for women. 

Heck, I can fantasize about a woman wearing an overcoat over two sweatshirts and her hair in a bun.

You are gonna have to implement the burka for this to work.

No, in fact you are just gonna have to lock women up and never let them out in public.

At least for me, if I make a choice to lust after a particular woman, I don't think it's gonna be because what she is wearing. It's gonna be because I have decided to sin on that particular day. I see women in swimsuits all the time without a sinful thought. I see them in jeans and a t-shirt and have the most evilest of intentions I tell you. I think it really has a lot more to do with the person, than with what the woman is wearing, but that's just me.

But I will grant you that as a general principle, you are correct. Certain outfits don't exactly help. A woman can certainly dress or act in particular ways that are more likely to arouse lustful thoughts in a man, but just wearing a swimsuit? I dunno about all that. Exactly where do you draw the line as to what is acceptable and what is not? A bit arbitrary I think. Jeans are in, but a dress is out? A two piece swimsuit is out, a one piece is in?

[Peace]

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Edited December 17, 2021 by Peace

[PadrePio]

15 minutes ago, Peace said:

 

But I will grant you that as a general principle, you are correct. Certain outfits don't exactly help. A woman can certainly dress or act in particular ways that are more likely to arouse lustful thoughts in a man, but just wearing a swimsuit? I dunno about all that. Exactly where do you draw the line as to what is acceptable and what is not? A bit arbitrary I think. Jeans are in, but a dress is out? A two piece swimsuit is out, a one piece is in?

I don't think we need to know where exactly the line needs to be drawn.

Can apply general principles there too..

[Peace]

1 minute ago, PadrePio said:

I don't think we need to know where exactly the line needs to be drawn.

OK. Then the swimsuit competition stays.

[PadrePio]

4 minutes ago, Peace said:

OK. Then the swimsuit competition stays.

I guess the  demons of sexual immorality (impurity) Baal and Beelzebub will be throwing a party then

Edited December 17, 2021 by PadrePio

[Peace]

8 minutes ago, PadrePio said:

I guess the  demons of sexual immorality (impurity) Baal and Beelzebub will be throwing a party then

Does St. Michael prefer the burka?

[PadrePio]

1 minute ago, Peace said:

Does St. Michael prefer the burka?

try discerning the answer to that question with the help of the word of God.

God bless you.

[Peace]

3 minutes ago, PadrePio said:

try discerning the answer to that question with the help of the word of God.

God bless you.

You see my point.

You suggest that Baal and Beelzebub rejoice at seeing women wear swimsuits, because they are more revealing than say a skirt or jeans.

But a skirt and jeans are more revealing than the burka. So by the very same principle Baal and Beelzebub should also rejoice when women wear a skirt or jeans, or anything else less revealing than the burka, for that matter.

You are just arbitrarily drawing the line where you see fit, and then implying that anyone who draws the line at a different location than you is approving of immorality.

That is total BS. If you can make that argument against me, everyone who draws a more restrictive line than you can make the same argument against you.

So I suggest that you review the word of God, in particular the parts where our Lord talks about being a hypocrite.

God bless you too.

[PadrePio]

2 minutes ago, Peace said:

You see my point.

You suggest that Baal and Beelzebub rejoice at seeing women wear swimsuits, because they are more revealing than say a skirt or jeans.

But a skirt and jeans are more revealing than the burka. So by the very same principle Baal and Beelzebub should also rejoice when women wear a skirt or jeans, or anything else less revealing than the burka, for that matter.

You are just arbitrarily drawing the line where you see fit, and then implying that anyone who draws the line at a different location than you is approving of immorality.

That is total BS. If you can make that argument against me, everyone who draws a more restrictive line than you can make the same argument against you.

So I suggest that you review the word of God, in particular the parts where our Lord talks about being a hypocrite.

God bless you too.

thank you for taking the time to respond to my message.

Very much appreciated and have a great day

[Peace]

9 minutes ago, PadrePio said:

thank you for taking the time to respond to my message.

Very much appreciated and have a great day

You have a great day too.

[rosamundi]

5 hours ago, Peace said:

 

You are gonna have to implement the burka for this to work.

Women in Afghanistan will tell you that forcing them into the burkha doesn't stop men sinning.

[Wolf]

I also think pageants like this are demeaning to women - a little like cattle parading!

[PadrePio]

6 hours ago, rosamundi said:

Women in Afghanistan will tell you that forcing them into the burkha doesn't stop men sinning.

Probably a different issue, apparently their try to "imitate" their prophet who had several wives and owned sex slaves

[CS937]

What about a beard pageant? 

 

[Luigi]

24 minutes ago, CS937 said:

What about a beard pageant? 

 

I'm glad you specified - I thought you were suggesting for a liturgical vestment pageant.