PadrePio Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) How do I help a person who dress immodestly. This person was a sister with a community for a few years and since she has left the community the person has started to dress a bit immodestly. The person is absolutely unwilling to talk to me. A few years back I criticised her and her community for something and as a result of it this person has cut me off completely from her life Only prayers works, but any pro -prayer tips? Edited November 8, 2021 by PadrePio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrysostom Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 If they cut you out of their life, how do you know she's dressing immodestly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PadrePio Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, chrysostom said: If they cut you out of their life, how do you know she's dressing immodestly? you can see their pics via social media , in friends FB photos' etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 If this person has been angry with you in the past and cut you out of her life, you just need to pray for them and respect their wishes. You're not supposed to force beliefs on people, especially those who have already heard from you and don't want to hear from you anymore... Also, you need to stop stalking her on social media... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PadrePio Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) Only prayers works, but any pro tips? is the actual question that I had posted in this page 12 minutes ago, dominicansoul said: If this person has been angry with you in the past and cut you out of her life, you just need to pray for them and respect their wishes. You're not supposed to force beliefs on people, especially those who have already heard from you and don't want to hear from you anymore... Also, you need to stop stalking her on social media... If they appear in a common friends FB page which happens to appear on my wall thats not stalking.. Edited November 8, 2021 by PadrePio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 It’s not your responsibility. She hasn’t asked for your advice. You’re not her spiritual advisor, superior, boss, confessor, family member, nor does it sound like it a friend. These are the people who are responsible for “correcting.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 In addition to prayer, we can also make sacrifices, even small, or offer up any hardship and suffering for souls. So offer something up for her if you experience any moments of hardship. Every little bit helps. Though I concur with others that you need to give her space. If she wishes to speak to you, leave that up to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 6 hours ago, PadrePio said: How do I help a person who dress immodestly. This person was a sister with a community for a few years and since she has left the community the person has started to dress a bit immodestly. The person is absolutely unwilling to talk to me. A few years back I criticised her and her community for something and as a result of it this person has cut me off completely from her life Only prayers works, but any pro -prayer tips? She is showing some ankle no? You could send her a pair of socks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceUk Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I think you need to mind your own business. Unless you are her parent. Its hardly surprising she is not willing to talk to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 8 hours ago, PadrePio said: Only prayers works, but any pro -prayer tips? Meditate on the passion, make an act of reparation to the Sacred Heart, fast or do penance for them, and pray your rosary. Most importantly focus on your own sanctification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benedictaaugustine Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I don’t mean to be harsh in this post, but given your previous posts and wording, I’m suspicious if you are being a bit scrupulous in your idea of immodesty. While modesty varies across countries and cultures, I would gently invite you to reflect on whether this is a problem with your own lust or gaze. If you are finding that you are being tempted by her outfits, perhaps take Jesus’s advice and pluck out the eye aka don’t see her or look at her. It is not for you to comment on women’s choices of dress, especially if this person is not a family member, someone under your guidance, or a close friend (as she has cut you off, you are not). You cannot change her, so you must change yourself. Some previous posts of yours, it seems like you start a conversation with a bit of a “holier than thou” attitude of pointing out people’s deficiencies or “sins”. Careful. Focus on “working out your own salvation” as Paul says. I myself am no spiritual expert, but I do get irritated when men (I’m assuming youre a man) assume that it’s their responsibility to lecture or counsel women for what is their own lust problems. If you aren’t a priest, it is not your responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PadrePio Posted November 9, 2021 Author Share Posted November 9, 2021 I would request all who want to respond to my post to read my very first post very carefully before doing so..With the exception of 2 posts everything else is not even relevant to my ask. Perhaps I wasn't clear in my initial message In my very first post I have mentioned "Only prayers works, but any pro -prayer tips? what I am asking here is in what ways I can take my prayer to the next level so that it becomes more efficacious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrysostom Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 35 minutes ago, PadrePio said: what I am asking here is in what ways I can take my prayer to the next level so that it becomes more efficacious I respect that. I will also add that any thread here will generally go "off-topic", and many questions posed here don't result in "insert question ---> receive desired answer" but will often lead to a discussion of the context and motivations behind the question. If you had perhaps reduced the level of context, you probably would have received more focused replies according to what you were looking for. Such as: "I am concerned for someone's spiritual welfare / contact with them is not an option / looking for tips on how to pray". But you chose to share a level of detail which made several people zero in on the context rather than the request because it seemed the most pertinent thing to them to address. They did it out of good will, it is up to you to care about that advice or not, though it seems you find it irrelevant. I would say that our actual level of responsibility/relationship towards someone is relevant to the actions we can undertake for their spiritual good, so discussion of your lack of relationship thereof is relevant. Taking prayer to the next level is good. I wish you the best in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) A link to a book I’ve found to be very helpful with upping my prayer game. https://www.amazon.com/Conversation-Christ-Teaching-Teresa-Personal/dp/0895551802 This book as well: https://tanbooks.com/sanctification/devotional-books/the-ways-of-mental-prayer/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgNej-rWK9AIVhBitBh3xpQZwEAQYAiABEgLN7PD_BwE The fact Tan has it on sale for $5 is a win. Edited November 9, 2021 by Credo in Deum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 9:13 PM, PadrePio said: I would request all who want to respond to my post to read my very first post very carefully before doing so..With the exception of 2 posts everything else is not even relevant to my ask. Perhaps I wasn't clear in my initial message In my very first post I have mentioned "Only prayers works, but any pro -prayer tips? what I am asking here is in what ways I can take my prayer to the next level so that it becomes more efficacious I think you should have just kept it at this then. Not sure why you had to mention the immodest girl you're trying to correct if all you wanted was prayer tips... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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