cure for the pandemic

[fides' Jack]

On 9/1/2021 at 6:52 AM, ReasonableFaith said:

So a claim made without any actual evidence and an assertion the ‘evidence’ likely exists, but you couldn’t possibly share such ‘evidence’ because it is super secret?

It seems more reasonable to proceed as if deaths from automobile accidents were not included among the COVID-19 death count. No?

We'll never know the number, which is what you asked.  We have evidence of a bunch of them.

On 8/31/2021 at 11:14 PM, Mercedes said:

Censored by who?  The conservative outlets must have surely launched an investigation about this censorship?

Conservative outlets are being shut down left and right.

[ReasonableFaith]

28 minutes ago, fides' Jack said:

On 9/1/2021 at 7:52 AM, ReasonableFaith said:

We'll never know the number, which is what you asked.  We have evidence of a bunch of them.

Nice attempt at misdirection.  Yes, how many was asked…as well as evidence of the accounts, names, dates and obituaries. These are very straight forward pieces of information. Proceed…
 

[little2add]

Meanwhile 

Israel is set to begin preparations to administer fourth doses of the coronavirus vaccine 

Edited September 6, 2021 by little2add

[fides' Jack]

On 9/4/2021 at 9:35 PM, ReasonableFaith said:

Nice attempt at misdirection.  Yes, how many was asked…as well as evidence of the accounts, names, dates and obituaries. These are very straight forward pieces of information. Proceed…
 

I'm not trying to misdirect, though you seem to be...  I was answering the specific question as to number.

I have no idea, and I have no desire or intention to provide evidence.  All the proof in the world could be staring at you in the face and you would still ignore it.  Your faith in the pseudo-science called "science" is completely unreasonable.

[ReasonableFaith]

1 hour ago, fides' Jack said:

I have no idea, and I have no desire or intention to provide evidence.  All the proof in the world could be staring at you in the face and you would still ignore it.  Your faith in the pseudo-science called "science" is completely unreasonable.

Of course folks have no ‘desire or intention’ to provide ‘evidence’ of these claims. It’s because they don’t have any actual evidence. It’s been a long long game of just making things up, distorting data, and promoting quackery. 
 

To judge how folks react to being presented evidence it can be helpful to actually present evidence first. 
 

Its a neat technique to call science pseudo-science and pseudo-science science.  Some have fallen for it; largely as a means to support radical ideologies. 

[fides' Jack]

15 hours ago, ReasonableFaith said:

Of course folks have no ‘desire or intention’ to provide ‘evidence’ of these claims. It’s because they don’t have any actual evidence. It’s been a long long game of just making things up, distorting data, and promoting quackery. 
 

To judge how folks react to being presented evidence it can be helpful to actually present evidence first. 
 

Its a neat technique to call science pseudo-science and pseudo-science science.  Some have fallen for it; largely as a means to support radical ideologies. 

I have presented evidence.  You have dismissed evidence as quackery through ad hominems.  As I said, I'm done trying to provide evidence.  The evidence is there if you ignore the mainstream media.  You will find it if you actually want to see it.  But you have closed yourself off to the truth, so there is nothing that I can do to convince you.

[Didacus]

Historically, the most proven cure for diseases is death.

 

Back to you Bob.

[Winchester]

On 9/5/2021 at 8:29 PM, little2add said:

Meanwhile 

Israel is set to begin preparations to administer fourth doses of the coronavirus vaccine 

This makes the thing seem ad hoc.

The principle behind MRNA and adenovirus vaccines is exciting, but I'm not sure it will work the way they were hoping against a rapidly mutating coronavirus.

 

I'm also not sure of the wisdom of rapidly repeating introduction of these vaccines to the body. There does seem to be an increased period of vulnerability 15 days after the second dose. But it also looks like we can't argue against the reduced risk for higher risk groups. My objection is in treating the entire population as if it had the same risks.

[little2add]

On 8/28/2021 at 12:36 PM, little2add said:

Natural immunity provides 13 times more protection against Delta than Pfizer's vaccine does, according to a Large Israeli study.  

LINK:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-no-infection-parties

 

the above makes more sense

3 hours ago, Winchester said:

'm also not sure of the wisdom of rapidly repeating introduction of these vaccines to the body.

i agree

[fides' Jack]

On 8/28/2021 at 10:36 AM, little2add said:

Natural immunity provides 13 times more protection against Delta than Pfizer's vaccine does, according to a Large Israeli study.  

LINK:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-no-infection-parties

 

There was another study I just read a day or two ago saying that it's actually higher than that.  Something like 20 times more effective against these "variants".

On 9/7/2021 at 5:25 PM, ReasonableFaith said:

Some have fallen for it; largely as a means to support radical ideologies. 

Radical ideologies such as mandated gene therapy?

[little2add]

 

[ardillacid]

There will never be any accountability for anything. 

[Anastasia13]

On 8/28/2021 at 10:39 AM, little2add said:

No it’s not, but if you’ve been vaccinated, I would not get the booster.  But that’s just me.  
Supposedly if you’ve been vaccinated and contract the virus it results in mild flu symptoms lasting only a few days

naturally 

It’s not just the deaths/hospitalizations that matter, but the after effects that matter too. Not debating the vaccine, just the concern that some of us have about the infection.

If those can be understood and cured better, then we can truly reduce the risk of the virus.

Edited September 5, 2022 by Anastasia13

[little2add]