dUSt Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 13 hours ago, Winchester said: That's like telling Tesla he need to invent less stuff. Cars don't have genders, and they certainly can't invent things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 7 hours ago, dUSt said: Cars don't have genders, and they certainly can't invent things. I cannot argue with this. I concede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) So you want me to get vaccinated in order to protect the vaccinated? Edited September 15, 2021 by Papist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Papist said: So you want me to get vaccinated in order to protect the vaccinated? There's a way in which that argument makes sense. The vaccinated can still be infected and can develop Covid-19. The chance of developing serious C-19 from a SARS-COV-2 infection is greatly lessened by vaccination, but not entirely erased for those with comorbidities. The vaccinated can also transmit the virus, but apparently for a smaller period of time. So there is a benefit. Now, I'm of the opinion that you can never demand others take a risk in order to protect you. Is it good if they do? Yes. But there is a risk with the vaccine. It's not equal among every cohort. The risk for mycarditis, for instance really does seem to be higher for young men. Now, it might be that SARS-COV-2 infection carries an even greater risk (in fact, I think there's evidence that this is the case). but I'm not sure how people calculate those risks. I honestly don't see much devotion in the mainstream to rationally discovering the real risks of SARS-COV-2, which pushes the discussion to the fringe, which makes it difficult to sift through the noise of junk science. Yes, I believe getting vaccinated can protect others who are vaccinated. To what degree I'm not sure. Edited September 16, 2021 by Winchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Canada is moving full force with Covid 'passports' and essentially creating a second class of citizens who do not agree with the narrative. Long live freedom. LONG LIVE DEMOCRACY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunsuch Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Didacus said: Canada is moving full force with Covid 'passports' and essentially creating a second class of citizens who do not agree with the narrative. Long live freedom. LONG LIVE DEMOCRACY! Well, if you believe in democracy, note that about 60% of the US population approves of vaccine mandates. https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-09-14/three-in-five-americans-support-bidens-new-vaccine-mandates-poll-says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hna.Caridad Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Same in Canada: https://globalnews.ca/news/8124103/canada-election-mandatory-vaccines-covid-poll/ Long live democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 I DONT believe in democracy... I am being sarcastic... Maybe I should add a general disclaimer on my posts??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Democracies nearly always end up being ruled by tyrants. Who the people, at first, often support by voting away their freedoms. I could probably pull a poll showing wide support of the Patriot Act before it became law. And all it would show is that 60% of Americans were brain dead cows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Per the Milgram Experiment, under the influence of an authorized leader 65% of people would repeatedly shock someone else with 450 volts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Democracy is wack. You think majority rule is a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Ice_nine said: Democracy is wack. You think majority rule is a good idea? As opposed to what? Minority rule? A dictatorship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunsuch Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 19 hours ago, KnightofChrist said: Democracies nearly always end up being ruled by tyrants. Who the people, at first, often support by voting away their freedoms. I could probably pull a poll showing wide support of the Patriot Act before it became law. And all it would show is that 60% of Americans were brain dead cows. They will know they are Christians by their love.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 On 9/16/2021 at 9:08 AM, Nunsuch said: Well, if you believe in democracy, note that about 60% of the US population approves of vaccine mandates. https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-09-14/three-in-five-americans-support-bidens-new-vaccine-mandates-poll-says Democracy is garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunsuch Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Just now, Winchester said: Democracy is garbage. You are entitled to your own opinion (however misguided), but not your own facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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