qfnol31 Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 [quote name='CatholicCrusader' date='Jul 9 2004, 03:47 PM'] If we only could go back to before Vatican II... [/quote] This caught my attention a little while ago. Do you realize that not too long before Vatican II people didn't receive Holy Communion more than a few times a year (St. Thérèse received 22 times one year, and that was a lot)? I have received Jesus in the most Blessed Sacrament more times than that in a month. Our current Holy Father is rumored to go to Reconciliation once a day, and I know he goes at least once a week. Reconciliation hadn't been practiced that much 100 years ago. I think he's done a lot to change that. I know those two things didn't change so much as a direct result from Vatican II, but I do know that the council found more ways for the layity to receive more graces, something we need today. But then there's the Liturgy of the Hours. A hundred years ago, it was practiced. It's been said since the beginning of the Church, but Vatican II added a special significance to this prayer. It is the second most powerful prayer in the world, second only to Mass! Now it is more open for the laity to recite this beautiful prayer, one we're definately not worthy to recite (St. Thérèse). We get to share in many things that she did not. And the Mass is changed. Many people do not like the Novus Ordo, and I sympathize in the way that I have a difficult time with abuses in the Mass, but read the following: [quote name='"Sacrosanctum Concilium"']21. In order that the Christian people may more certainly derive an abundance of graces from the sacred liturgy, holy Mother Church desires to undertake with great care a general restoration of the liturgy itself. For the liturgy is made up of immutable elements divinely instituted, and of elements subject to change. These not only may but ought to be changed with the passage of time if they have suffered from the intrusion of anything out of harmony with the inner nature of the liturgy or have become unsuited to it.[/quote] Though, I will admit some things were better before Vatican II. First on that list were that people didn't try to form the Church based on their personal view, but rather followed her more fully, or so it seems to me. Oh well, sorry for the rambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilroy the Ninja Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 There has been a request from the originator of this thread that it be deleted. In the interest of those who have posted here, I am going to close the thread and allow it to die. After a couple of days I'll probably go ahead and delete it since we've nowhere for threads to die in anymore. Questions, please pm me. Kilroy the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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