Covid Vaccination

[Era Might]

On 1/13/2021 at 10:21 PM, fides' Jack said:

Maybe less money is put into their development because the globalists are taking all of it:

https://fortune.com/2019/01/17/bill-gates-best-investment-vaccines-global-health/

When 1 person makes 190 billion dollars, I don't trust anything they tell us in that field.  There's just too much wealth and power for them to not deceive.

So, yes, the covid vaccine was produced too fast. 

We live in a competitive global free market which is now operating under conditions of a war economy. The world declared war on Covid a year ago. WWII was the model of a global war economy and was fought over just 6 years, including the race to build an atomic bomb. But the primary actor in WWII was nation-states themselves, commandeering every available resource and putting them toward the war effort. In today's global free market, multinational corporations and the global capitalists who lead them are basically private states. This is the world we live in. I understand people are going to take prophetic stands against scientific engineering, but just remember that the prophets were voices in the wilderness. The leaders of the world don't sit around pondering questions of moral philosophy. Science drives democratic debate, but it also limits the debate, because there is only so much that can be subjected to democratic debate in a complex global civilization of 7 billion people. Take your prophetic stand, I applaud you for it, but let's live in reality at the same time. This is a war economy and a private, global war economy at that. Bill Gates is a private owner of massive capital and this system gives public rights and thus power to people based on their privately accumulated capital. Politicians and statesmen are in cahoots with global capitalists because that's how the system is designed to work, it doesn't take any secret conspiracy to account for it. This is the world we have inherited from Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher, they launched a revolution based on a radically free market.

Edited January 22, 2021 by Era Might

[Era Might]

 

[fides' Jack]

On 1/22/2021 at 9:34 AM, Era Might said:

Science drives democratic debate, but it also limits the debate, because there is only so much that can be subjected to democratic debate in a complex global civilization of 7 billion people.

"Science" no longer drives democratic debate, because there is no more real science.  Or very little, and only in a few specific fields.

What is classified as science these days is merely the political and evil push of statistics to further communist and globalist propaganda.

All real scientists are in the process right now of having their careers and lives destroyed, simply because they stand for truth, and truth is incompatible with the left.

[MIKolbe]

50 minutes ago, fides' Jack said:

"Science" no longer drives democratic debate, because there is no more real science.  Or very little, and only in a few specific fields.

What is classified as science these days is merely the political and evil push of statistics to further communist and globalist propaganda.

All real scientists are in the process right now of having their careers and lives destroyed, simply because they stand for truth, and truth is incompatible with the left.

you really believe that?

[fides' Jack]

1 minute ago, MIKolbe said:

you really believe that?

Absolutely.  We're living in the end times.  The signs for this are everywhere.

What I wasn't expecting, but now makes perfect sense, is the incredible blindness that most people have.  It's like they can't see the evil staring at them in the face.  Like the nazis, even ordinary people can commit the worst atrocities, and we see that going on now.  God is keeping them in the dark, and not allowing them to see the light of truth, so that they fall into the worst depravities, just like he used to do with the Jews in the Old Testament.

It all points to one thing: chastisements are coming, and afterward the world will be renewed once again.

Repent and turn to prayer and fasting.  The end is near!

[MIKolbe]

cool!  Thanks for sharing!

[Era Might]

5 hours ago, fides' Jack said:

"Science" no longer drives democratic debate, because there is no more real science.  Or very little, and only in a few specific fields.

What is classified as science these days is merely the political and evil push of statistics to further communist and globalist propaganda.

All real scientists are in the process right now of having their careers and lives destroyed, simply because they stand for truth, and truth is incompatible with the left.

I'll just make a few points that might help point your thinking in a different direction.

First, Communism is not opposed to science. The Soviet Union under Stalin built an atomic bomb. While there was certainly political interference in science (famously the Lysenko case), this was not unique to a Communist society. One could go right down through history to find similar examples, from teaching "creationism" in the United States down to Galileo and Socrates.

That being said, I think you'll be hard pressed to find many Communists today. You seem to be using "Communism" as a synonym for radical leftism, but Communism collapsed for one major reason: it no longer worked for the Communist elite (the "pigs" in Orwell's story). The strength and appeal of Communism was that it was an organized system, NOT that it was a secret conspiracy of the elite. The Bolsheviks under Lenin were an elite conspiracy, but they were irrelevant even in Russia until they built the Soviet party-state. The Communist Party elite could get ahead precisely because they belonged to a global "church." Their strength was fitting in to a mass party, conforming to the Party line, etc. There was nothing conspiratorial about Communism.

Communism by definition is an ideology that requires a mass movement of workers (the proletariat). The USSR was a "dictatorship of the proletariat" which the Communist Party theoretically represented. And indeed, Communism as a historical movement was the enemy of elite ruling classes, represented by European monarchies of the 19th century as well as the bourgeois elite such as the Freemasons. It's interesting that in Soviet Russia, even when Stalin became a despot with unlimited power, he went through the motions of putting political prisoners through show trials. The Nazis didn't worry themselves with such formalities, because the Nazis were something categorically different.

Which brings me to another point. While Communism has completely collapsed, Fascism has not, because Fascism was a departure from the Englightenment tradition, and is still very profitable for elites (like Trump). Both Communism and Capitalism/Democratic Liberalism were children of the Englightenment. They both took seriously the attempt to build a rational, industrial society, they just went about it in different ways (if you doubt that Communism was a rational ideology, just look at what the Soviet Union achieved industrially, including winning World War II). This was not true of Fascism, which was a deliberately irrational ideology. The purpose of Fascism was to create a mass conservative movement, uniting people around identity ideology rather than scientific or industrial civilization.

This is why Fascism caught on in deeply traditional/conservative (and Catholic) countries like Italy, Germany and Spain. The purpose of Fascism was to mobilize the masses in a modern way, but without transforming them into modern people in the mold of the Englightenment. Thus, fascism was a strange creature for both Communists and Capitalists, because the traditional aristocratic elites (who were opposed to both Communism and bourgeois Capitalism/Liberalism) did not want to mobilize the masses (an abhorrently modern idea), yet Fascism could be useful to them because it preserved the traditional social structure (church, king, mythology, race, etc.). It was fascism that was militantly anti-science and anti-reason, which resulted in the greatest "brain drain" in history from Germany (bringing Einstein and other refugees to the United States). World War II could be summarized as the Alliance of Communism and Capitalism to defeat Fascism.

Unlike Communism, Fascism is alive and well and lives on through Trumpism and similar movements. After 4 years of the Left trying and failing to bring Trump down (first Russia, then impeachment, etc.), what finally brought about Trump's collapse? His failure to lead the country through a global pandemic. Trump didn't come to power as a rational leader in a democratic, rational society. He came to power in the fascist mold, by appealing to traditional conservative elements in society, mobilizing them in a modern way, and promising to save them from modernity. He literally came to power under the slogan "Make America Great Again," uniting conservative white people around a mythical past, the 1950s and the 1850s, before the "dark" days of the 1960s and 1860s.

So, to try and bring all these points to a close, the main point I want to make is that science has nothing to do with "truth." Science is a technique for testing theories and coming to consensus on systems of knowledge. I'm not quite sure what you mean by "the left," but historically speaking, "the left" is precisely what made the United States possible. The "founding fathers" of America were men of the Enlightenment, the descendants of those who fled Europe precisely to get away from Popery and all the social hierarchy of aristocratic Europe. The US Constitution was the fruit of social theory that stretched back two centuries to men like Thomas Hobbes, John Locke, Montesquieu, Rousseau, etc. Who were these men? They were the theorists of bourgeois society, which resulted (in the 17th century) in the English civil wars and overthrow of monarchy, and later (in the 18th century) in the French revolution.

My advice is, expand your thinking and don't get stuck in the ideologies that I outlined above. I agree with you that we are living in the End Times, but to me, that looks very different from what you imagine. We live in a world where women and babies and refugees wash up dead trying to reach the shores of distant continents, because they can't feed and clothe themselves in a global economy led by men like Donald Trump and George Soros. It's also a world of scientific elites who see the world as their laboratory. Leftism and Rightism are just national storylines. When Donald Trump gets together with other elites in the global halls of power, their concerns are money and power, not the stuff they talk about on TV to make money for Fox and CNN. Globalization is not something new, it's been in progress for 500 years ever since the Catholic Kings of Europe launched their empire in the Americas.

Yes, there are "global elites" who run the world, but the solution is not neo-fascism or other forms of irrationality, like the magical thinking of Christian fundamentalism in America. The world is one. There is only one God, one human family, and globalization is a necessity. We need to find a language and institutions for a global world. The nation-state as we know it has only been around for less than 200 years. There is no going back to the past, not to the 1950s or the 1850s or the 1450s. Either we learn to live together or we will die together. The solution is not in the sky, it's in us. Man is rational, and life is not a mystery. Scientists are specialists in knowledge, not in truth. I don't look to scientists for truth. The truth is utterly simple. Love your neighbor as you love yourself. That's it. Until men learn to do that, the world is just a big circus of fear. Why live in fear? You were born for a time such as this!

[fides' Jack]

22 hours ago, Era Might said:

Yes, there are "global elites" who run the world, but the solution is not neo-fascism or other forms of irrationality, like the magical thinking of Christian fundamentalism in America.

What you call "Christian fundamentalism" is one of the few parts left of the now communism-obsessed world which still maintains some semblance of true faith.

 

22 hours ago, Era Might said:

globalization is a necessity.

I truly do pity you, and I will keep you in my prayers.