Era Might Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 hours ago, little2add said: Some of Trump's best friends are black. Ben Carson. Omarosa. Kanye. Mr. T. The butler ar Trump Tower. And on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Era Might said: butler ar Trump Tower Is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 3 hours ago, little2add said: Is he? Progressive. We got white butlers here in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I actually picture white butlers as more stereotypical, usually with some kind of British connection, but then I'm quite a bit removed from any kind of people who would have butlers in real life lol, probably my stereotypical image of them comes mostly from Batman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 10 hours ago, Era Might said: butlers here in 2020. I was wondering, since you brought it up, is there anything derogatory or demeaning About working as a butler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, little2add said: I was wondering, since you brought it up, is there anything derogatory or demeaning About working as a butler? Not if you don't mind being in a servile role for rich people. Edited July 16, 2020 by Era Might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 In my opinion a job is a job. I would do it especially if it was somebody famous and the pay was good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 58 minutes ago, little2add said: In my opinion a job is a job. I would do it especially if it was somebody famous and the pay was good Would you be Barack Obama's butler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 Yes, why not? In fact, it would be an honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, little2add said: Yes, why not? In fact, it would be an honor. Well, maybe you found your life's calling, to be a butler. Maybe if we lived in a monarchy I'd consider being the king's butler. But in a capitalist democracy, I can't be anybody's butler. This economy was made for capitalists and entrepreneurs, not butlers. If you want to spend your life in the employ of capitalists and entrepreneurs, then butlering is a good career choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 In a capitalist democracy, hard work and diligence have a moral benefit and an inherent ability, virtue or value to strengthen character and individual abilities. Socialism smells of elderberries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, little2add said: In a capitalist democracy, hard work and diligence have a moral benefit and an inherent ability, virtue or value to strengthen character and individual abilities. Socialism smells of elderberries I'm down with capitalism, just not as a butler. This system is about money making and move making. Butlering is about serving another man for pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 It’s hard to find good help these days. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, little2add said: It’s hard to find good help these days. haha Since we're talking about butlers, who are domestic workers, it's worth remembering that domestic workers made up the heart of the early Civil Rights movement. Domestic work is by nature a servile social role, and in fact in the 19th century the wearing of uniforms was one way that the upper classes disciplined their domestic workers, along with the lower classes in general, unifying them into a recognizable class. Even into the 1900s, rich white women would go to poorer black areas to what was known as the "slave mart" where black women were picked up and hired as domestic help for the day. Throughout the 1900s, black women represented the bulk of domestic workers. Black women provided an opportunity for lower-middle-class white women to have the splendor of a maid without the lavish price tag. Black women faced double-barreled discrimination in the workforce because of both their race and gender, channeling them into domestic work. Georgia Gilmore, a Montgomery, Ala., cook and midwife, founded the “Club From Nowhere,” which helped feed and fund the civil rights movement. The organization of service workers, maids and cooks used its members’ domestic skills to anonymously raise capital that would eventually cover much of the costs of transportation, insurance, legal representation and security for the Montgomery bus boycott. As Premilla Nadasen sums up: “Domestic workers ... were much more than foot soldiers. They filled the pews at the weekly mass meetings and generated energy and enthusiasm for the boycott [and] also exhibited leadership by raising money and mobilizing others in the community to support the campaign.” In Atlanta, Dorothy Lee Bolden organized a national union that gave voice to domestic workers in that city and helped negotiate and improve their wages and working conditions. In New York City, Dora Lee Jones led the establishment of the Domestic Workers’ Union, which worked to dismantle the “slave mart.” In Youngstown, Ohio, Josephine Hulett put together an organization of household technicians and later a workshop in Miami titled, “Are You a Household Slave?” https://www.theroot.com/domestic-workers-the-women-who-raised-america-1823983133 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) Why would a racist turn over the running of his household, raising of his children and to cook his meals to somebody they hated? Funny how history can be twisted to fit todays politically correct narrative. Edited July 17, 2020 by little2add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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