Disagree With Catholic Doctrine.

[ironmonk]

[quote name='ICTHUS' date='Jul 4 2004, 04:56 PM'] The Church is our free gift? I thought salvation was our free gift. Hmm. Maybe you guys don't have Ephesians 2:8-10 in your bibles. [/quote]
Ah, that must be your problem, you haven't read the rest of the bible.


[b]Ephesians 4: [/b]
[b]1[/b] I, then, a prisoner for the Lord, urge you to live in a manner worthy of the call you have received,
[b]2 [/b] with all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another through love,
[b]3 [/b] striving to preserve the [b]unity [/b]of the spirit through the bond of peace:
[b]4 [/b] one body and one Spirit, as you were also called to the one hope of your call;
[b]5 [/b] one Lord, [b]one faith[/b], one baptism;
[b]6 [/b] one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
[b]7[/b] that [b]in the ages to come [/b]he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus.
[b]8[/b] For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not from you; it is the gift of God;
[b]9 [/b] it is not from works, so no one may boast.
[b]10[/b] For we are his handiwork, created in Christ Jesus [b]for the good works [/b]that God has prepared in advance, [u][b]that we should live in them[/b][/u].


[b]St. Matt 24:13 [/b] [color=red] But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved. [/color]

[b]St. Matt 16:18 [/b] "[color=red]And so I say to you, you are Peter (Kephas), and upon this rock (Kephas) I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it.[/color]"
[b]19 [/b][color=red]I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.[/color]"


One Faith... Ages to come (from 1st Century)... Live in the Good Works... Persevere to the end to be saved... Never prevail... Power to bind and loose....

...Only in the Catholic Church... Christ's original since 33 AD.

Bro... wanna talk scripture? One of two things can only be drawn of Scripture... 1 - The Catholic Church is Christ Church OR 2 - There is no God.

I know the bible better than the Catechism... I know the ECF's better than the Catechism.... I know a little about the Catechism....

You think the Church is wrong, put your money where your mouth is, stop crying it's wrong, and prove it... if you are right, you will be able to without any problem.

Here's the link....

[url="http://phorum.phatmass.com/index.php?showtopic=627&st=200"]http://phorum.phatmass.com/index.php?showtopic=627&st=200[/url]
Jun 22 2004, 09:42 AM


Prove the Catholic Church wrong and I'll join you AND give you my share in Teen Arrive Alive... my soul is worth much more than thousands of dollars. If you can prove it wrong, and I'm in the wrong Church, by showing me it's wrong, you'll be able to make up for many sins of your past and there will be a party in Heaven.... All because of you.


God Bless,
ironmonk