curtins Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 ok some of you may have seen my thread about my freind and the da vinci code and she was taking that for scripture and I was tryin to defend my faith and all- well She realized she was taking the book for scripture and so I guess I turned her back. well now she says the Catholic church says sex is bad because she was at a talk I guess with a decon and he said sex was bad-dont have sex before marriage and so she says the church says all sex is bad and I know thats wrong cuz God gave us sexuality to use in the good way-in marriage. She doesnt wanna hear that from me and is tellin me Im gettin "Godly" on her and acting like a preist. and she says who am I to say what sexuality is supposed to be for and all that and all. its really frustratin cuz we get in these big arguments she doesnt really wanna hear what i have to say and I NEEd a website for the catechism that I could search like a topic- and any advice on how to go abou this thank s alot God bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThyWillBeDone Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 Well as far as a site with the Catechism that you can search for topic the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops site has catechism and you can search for topic in it, it works pretty well. [url="http://www.nccbuscc.org"]http://www.nccbuscc.org[/url]. As for getting your friends to listen to you and not say your acting like a preist, unfortunatly I can't help with that. I am entering the seminary so some of my friends use the same line when I get in an argument with them. Just pray that God opens there hearts up so they can discover the truth. God Bless, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 as for a searchable catechism, i think [url="http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm"]this website[/url] is better also, the entry on the "theology of the body" in the reference section should me VERY helpfull. you can brush up on ur apologetics on this issue and also find the right article that gets your point across and that u think she will read. plus, if ur looking for advice from the church on this issue, i pretty much got it covered so, peep those two sources, and let me know if you have any more questions. get it?................got it?.................good pax christi, phatcatholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cure of Ars Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 (edited) This is what you should say to your friend. I stole it from Scott Hahn. Your right the Catholic Church says that sex ain't good, Campbell’s Soup now that is "mmm...mmm...good" Sex is not great, Frosted flakes, "there gggggreat!!!" Sex is sacred and should be treated as such. Here is what I usually say as an argument of what sex really means. Here’s an analogy. Sex is kind of like duck tape. Sex is meant to unite a man and a woman, in love, to make a family for children. Just like tape is meant to stick things together. If you take your duck tape and stick it to a lot of different objects before you stick it to the thing that you want it to stick to for good, it is not going to stick very well. Same thing happens with sex. If sex is used for anything less than for love, then it will weaken it’s expression as love. Another point. Biologically we have a universal language built into us. If you go to China and they smile at you, you know what they mean. If you go to Africa and they frown at you, you know what they mean. Same goes with sex. Sex has meaning. It says to someone that I am willing to make a commitment to you. I am willing to allow the possibility that our love will be in-fleshed and become a person. I am willing to lay down my life for you for the life of our children. It says, “I love you”. But if you say anything less than what it means then you are lying with your body. With to many lies then sex becomes a lie. Then when you really want to say “I love you” with sex it wont be able to because you distorted the truth with lies. Just like if I went up to you and smiled and then punched you. The next time someone smiles at you its going to mean something different, like duck. Sex is a sacred act. It is the act that brings the gift of life into this world. We should treat it as if it is sacred. Edited July 3, 2004 by Cure of Ars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 curtins...........did u find the info u were looking for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conservativecatholic Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 I'll pray for your non-catholic friend if you'll pray for mine. My friend is just the same way but bases all of his arguments on scripture [u]alone[/u]. Well, I guess that is not surprising since he is a die-hard protestant. May God Bless and I hope everything works out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtins Posted July 7, 2004 Author Share Posted July 7, 2004 acutally she is a catholic but i think she got the message cuz i emailed her with a bunch of refrences from the ccc- thanks alot for ur help u guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philippe Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 that search is great phatcatholic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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