Hananiah Posted July 3, 2004 Author Share Posted July 3, 2004 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Jul 3 2004, 09:04 AM'] I have no clue what I would have done during the reign of Pope Stephen and I do not engage in chronological snobbery for the mere speculation of it. [/quote] So in other words, yes you would tell your children that the Pope was sinning and that they should not emulate him. [quote]You were not present at either occasion you criticise and therefore are relying on hearsay evidence.[/quote] There are pictures and news reports from multiple sources. One need not be an eyewitness to have reliable information about an event. Just take a look at the Fatima pictures. John Vennari was right all along. [quote]CALUMNY. Injuring another person's good name by lying. It is doubly sinful, in unjustly depriving another of his good name and in telling an untruth.[/quote] Well, I haven't lied about the Pope yet. [quote]DEFAMATION. Unjust injury of a person's good name. It consists in telling facts that harm another's reputation. In defamation, there is at least an implicit intention to harm the reputation of another, who is absent and therefore not a witness to being defamed. Defamation may be committed in two ways: by spreading injurious facts that are true but not publicly known, or by saying things that are false.[/quote] These events are most certainly publicly known. [quote]DETRACTION. Revealing something about another that is true but harmful to that person's reputation. It is forbidden to reveal another person's secret faults or defects, unless there is proportionate good involved. The fact that something is true does not, of itself, justify its disclosure. Detraction is a sin against justice. It robs one of what most people consider more important than riches, since a person has a strict right to his or her reputation whether it is deserved or not. (Etym. Latin detractio, a withdrawal.)[/quote] I think there is a proportionate good involved. People need to know that it is sinful to encourage others to sin, and that worshipping a false god is a sin against the first commandment. Someone might emulate the Pope if they didn't know better. Also, the Pope needs prayers. [quote]We do not criticise the current Pope on THIS site, feel free to do it elsewhere to your hearts content. It won't happen here.[/quote] Well, if you don't want traditionalists to explain and defend their position, stop writing about how mean and nasty we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 [quote name='Hananiah' date='Jul 3 2004, 01:46 PM'] So in other words, yes you would tell your children that the Pope was sinning and that they should not emulate him. There are pictures and news reports from multiple sources. One need not be an eyewitness to have reliable information about an event. Just take a look at the Fatima pictures. John Vennari was right all along. Well, I haven't lied about the Pope yet. These events are most certainly publicly known. I think there is a proportionate good involved. People need to know that it is sinful to encourage others to sin, and that worshipping a false god is a sin against the first commandment. Someone might emulate the Pope if they didn't know better. Also, the Pope needs prayers. Well, if you don't want traditionalists to explain and defend their position, stop writing about how mean and nasty we are. [/quote] I never said you were mean and nasty. You simply will noit criticise the Holy Father here. There are plenty of sites out there, feel free to spend scandal. calunmy, and defamation somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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