Iacobus Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Ah, I see why we couldn't find it. It wasn't UNOCAL it was Carlyle group. Check them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 lol... except Moore himself now is tied to the Carlyle group as well [url="http://www.mooreexposed.com/paranoia.html"]http://www.mooreexposed.com/paranoia.html[/url] pAx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Sorry Al. Dinesy cut the film and it was relased by LGF. That was a bad link filled with out of date info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Isn't Moore a socialist? I don't think his movie will have any affect in November. Most of those who go to it are there because they dislike the president anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 [quote name='Iacobus' date='Jun 30 2004, 09:39 PM'] Sorry Al. Dinesy cut the film and it was relased by LGF. That was a bad link filled with out of date info. [/quote] it still shows how easy it is to come up with a paranoid conspiracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader_4 Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 [quote name='justfran' date='Jun 29 2004, 02:39 AM'] Okay, I'm not too knowledgable on world politics, but I'm comparing it with stuff we just discussed in Ancient History earlier today, about the formation of the Athenian Empire. I think you could pretty much replace "Greece" or "Athens" in the 5th century BC with the US today, and "Persia" with ("Iraq"/"terrorists"/whatever) (well, not necessarily but just to make a point - it's East versus West newyas). The Delian League was formed as a defense alliance against the Persians. Just about every textbook the school has on this carries the connotation that Athens became power-hungry and began stamping on anyone who tried to "medise" (that is, turn artound and support the Persians), saying "we're the best, submit to us, OR ELSE." These textbooks also say that the Persian threat diminished over that period from the 470s BC onwards, that the Persians were crushed after the Battle of Eurymedon in 465 and so the Athenians were happy. BUT there was one League member, the island of Naxos, which rebelled in 469. It was no coincidence that it was halfway between the Greek mainland and Persia and, while being Greek, had some Persian sympathisers. The theory goes that the Persian threat never went away (they tried to take Egypt from the Persians and got steamrollered in 454). So maybe all this crushing rebelling allies thing did have something to do with keeping the defensive alliance together. But I think converting everything to Athenian currency and measuring was a bit far. Make what comparisons you want. I don't want to side with Micheal Moore and say I hate the way the government works, nor do I want to side against him. There's so much that none of the media ever includes, and while I don't think the US government is all corrupt, what government (save for God's, up in Heaven, that is) *doesn't* have corrupt members? [/quote] Justfran...well the delian league did serve its purpose however in the end it did lose to the Pelopenisain league. If one does study the greeks ancient history your right though on how scary one can see history repeating. Its actually quite scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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