qfnol31 Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 One of my teachers said this in our class last semester, and most of the class disagreed. I know for sure that one is definately subjectively better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 I voted "aahhhh." Its a tough call. They are both so different and have such different purposes. Without marriage there'd be no people (well, they would be people, but in a perfect world where all babies were born in wedlock....), and without Holy Orders we wouldn't have Christ in the Eucharist... honestly, I think they are equal. God instituted marriage first, which doesn't necessarily make it better, but it IS necessary. Christ instituted the priesthood, it too is necessary. I'm not sure how someone can say that one vocation is better than the other... I'm sure someone will try, though. lol It probably won't change my opinion, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted June 27, 2004 Author Share Posted June 27, 2004 I like your Vocation, I'm a result of it. However, I must ask that no one post anything definately stated by the Church (before 1000AD) yet as to which one's best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 Ok, I'll eat my words, I will change my mind if you meant what I think you meant in our PM conversation. lol (I only said "probably" which is close to "maybe" and isn't quite "definately" ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hananiah Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 Yes. This is Catholic teaching, based on the writings of St. Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 (edited) Thats part of why I realized I have to eat my words. lol When qfnol says its ok I might post a couple articles I found. I had actually never heard this before (or if I had forgotten it). Edited June 27, 2004 by IcePrincessKRS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 I voted AHHH ! You can not really make a choice between the two, because not all are called to the Religious life and not all are called to a life of marriage. God makes it known to those He choses for each type of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted June 27, 2004 Author Share Posted June 27, 2004 [quote name='StColette' date='Jun 27 2004, 02:38 AM'] I voted AHHH ! You can not really make a choice between the two, because not all are called to the Religious life and not all are called to a life of marriage. God makes it known to those He choses for each type of life. [/quote] Which is why I said objectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theculturewarrior Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 Better? I don't know. But a is celibacy a higher calling? Yes. This is Catholic dogma, IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebirth flame Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 ummm... as far as i knew, Holy Matrimony was as much a religious vocation as Holy Orders, so long as it is within the Church (as a sacrament). i could be wrong, but that's how i've always viewed it... so i voted "no". i think it's also, on a more personal note, kinda hard to tell anyone that their vocation isn't as good as a different one. For instance, i can't tell my friend that's getting married that his vocation is good, but it could be better if he were becoming a priest. that's not my call. everyone of us is outfitted with our vocation from God, we just have to search and find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebirth flame Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 whoops, didn't read the whole topic... i saw a poll and just popped my .02 in... nasty habit of mine... anyways, could someone put up the stuff from Paul if qfnol will permit, or put up links to the articles you found or what have you... or, better yet, could anyone PM me some links or Bible passages to look up? Plllllleeeeeeeaaaaaassssseee...? i'll pray a rosary for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarkich Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 (edited) While it is true that there are several biblical points which assert that Holy Orders are a higher and more superior vocation, it is more important to recognize that the Church has spoken infallibly on this very matter which is being considered, so there is no question of ambiguity as some will easily find by twisting the Scriptures. Here is the reference to this; it is essentially citing two sources in one, as the source cited, the [i]Encyclical on Sacred Virginity[/i] by Pope Pius XII in itself cites the decree of the Council of Trent. The Encyclical reads as follows: "The doctrine of the excellence of viginity and of celibacy, and of their [i]superiority over the married state[/i], was ... revealed by our Divine Redeemer ... ; so too, it was solemnly defined as a [i]dogma of divine faith [/i]by the holy Council of Trent" (emphasis added, from the Baltimore Catechism). If you are interested in reading either the decree from the Council of Trent or the Encyclical in its entirety, I would be glad to procure this information for you. God bless. Edited June 28, 2004 by amarkich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 heh heh .... the author of this thread asked that no sources be posted for the time being. Rebirth Flame, I'll PM you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarkich Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 My apologies, but the fact still remains. God bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 I don't dispute the fact, and I agree now that I have done some more research on the topic that celibacy is a greater vocation than marriage, but the fact also remains as to what the author of this thread requested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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