RandomProddy Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 (edited) [quote name='Raphael' date='Jun 27 2004, 05:42 AM'] Or "The Bishops formerly known as Princes" [/quote] ? I'm talking about the bishops who were given the power by the country to raise their own armies, specifically Durham in the North of England. [url="http://www.thenortheast.fsnet.co.uk/Prince%20Bishops%20of%20Durham.htm"]http://www.thenortheast.fsnet.co.uk/Prince...of%20Durham.htm[/url] I really dislike some elements of the church, they are wrecking our reputation. Durham, York, etc.. used to have a reputation as the most hardcore Christian diocese on earth. Cuthbert, Aidan, Patrick, all saints from the area. the Venerable Bede is a Doctor of the Church! We have contributed so much to early Christinity it's unbelievable.... My plan:[list] [*]Get some real badasses appointed as Bishop of Durham and Archbishop of York. [*]Reinstate the Prince-Bishop indulgence to Dunelm*. [*]Aquisition the Air assault Brigade, the Irish Guards, the RAF and the Royal Navy nuclear submarines (in Scotland) under the Prince-Bishop and march on London. [*]Get appointed PM/King. [*]Disestablish the Church of England. [*]Use MI5 to infiltrate the Orthodox and "persuade" them to recommunicate with Rome. [*]Persuade the *universal* church to allow an English mass with the altar facing the correct way. [*]Recommunicate with Rome. [/list].. ... .. I think I need to sleep lol (*Dunelm = latin name for Durham and refers to the diocese.) Edited June 27, 2004 by RandomProddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 [quote]?[/quote] Sorry, it was one of those profoundly stupid, yet allegedly witty jokes Voiciblanche loves... The Artist Formerly Known as Prince...The Bishops Formerly Known as Princes... Sorry for wasting your brain cells. [quote]Persuade the *universal* church to allow an English mass with the altar facing the correct way.[/quote] The Catholic (Universal) Church does allow English Mass with the Altar facing oriented or ad populum. In fact, if you read the Catholic Mass rubrics, they assume that the celebrant is facing oriented, because they say, "the priest turns to face the people." That's what Fr. Peter Stravinskas of EWTN told me... Unless of course you meant something else by "universal"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomProddy Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 Ah, lol i see now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomProddy Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 (edited) Wow!! It's a sign. Maybe the Pope is a secret Geordie.. Two coats of arms. The older one is the Bishop of Durham (and it's really old) and the newer one is the current Bishop of Rome's. Durham:[color=white]........................................................[/color]Rome: [img]http://cjwinnit.hopto.org/pictures/DurhamCOA.jpg[/img][color=white]........................[/color][img]http://cjwinnit.hopto.org/pictures/JPIICOA.jpg[/img] That's awesome... Edited June 27, 2004 by RandomProddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 I doubt it, Proddy (my father, an Irish Catholic, changed his name to "Mick"...so I've gotta love your name )...most bishops' crests look pretty similar. The pope's crest and my bishop's crest look alike, too. Come to think of it, the pope's crest and my clan's crest look pretty similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomProddy Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 (edited) Dammit, pressed edit instead of quote... Edited June 27, 2004 by RandomProddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellenita Posted June 27, 2004 Author Share Posted June 27, 2004 [quote]although I hear the Jerusalem is very poetic. [/quote] The Jerusalem translation is very poetic and rather beautiful. Not to be confused with the New Jerusalem translation! I use it alongside the NIV. (I know the NIV has a reputation of being very 'protestant' in it's translation, but I've used it for many years and my priest has said it's OK to continue to use it when I asked him.) It's disturbing to think that this supposed 'new translation' might be given to people who have never read the Bible before, and with the endorsement of the archbishop they will naturally think it's OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 I have a NIV that I got from my dad, I needed a Bible for something and stole it out of his book case. *I am a nerd I have like 4 translations for some dumb reason, lol* But I didn't care for it. I love the New American better. And about being PC, "Good as New" isn't being PC. PC wouldn't mean changing get a wife or husband to regualr partner, that changes the meaning. PC would be changing slurs (I don't think there are many *if any* in the Bible). But than again we live in a world that bans The Adventure of Huck Finn from schools for being rasict. BTW the book is clearly anti slavary and Clemons meant for it to be a satire on slavary. So come again, how is it rasict? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 [quote name='Iacobus' date='Jun 27 2004, 01:18 PM'] And about being PC, "Good as New" isn't being PC. PC wouldn't mean changing get a wife or husband to regualr partner, that changes the meaning. PC would be changing slurs (I don't think there are many *if any* in the Bible). [/quote] Of course it changes the meaning, thats the whole point of what that are trying to do. So its definitely PC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Jun 27 2004, 11:27 AM'] Of course it changes the meaning, thats the whole point of what that are trying to do. So its definitely PC! [/quote] That isn't how I defined it or how we defined it in AP writing. You never change the word to a more PC form when quoting from a document or when it alters the meaning (i.e. The English man entered the room is okay and shouldn't be replaced by the English person entered the room). But words like the N word should be changed, black should be changed to African American (I was in AP US so there weren't many African Euros or Asians to deal with) etc). But if I am quoting dirctly from the Jim Crow Laws for proof of rascism I don't want to change it. Changing spouse to partner changes the meaning like changing "A black man may not own a firearm." to "A person may not own a fire arm." when writing about laws resricting African Americans during the reconsturtion. The altered form may be more PC but it implies that all persons were prohibted from owning a firearm and that African Americans were not singleing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 In the new version, St Paul's advice that men and women should marry is replaced with they should have a "regular partner". The whole point is to make it making it accepting of homosexual marriage. It IS political correctness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Jun 27 2004, 12:45 PM'] In the new version, St Paul's advice that men and women should marry is replaced with they should have a "regular partner". The whole point is to make it making it accepting of homosexual marriage. It IS political correctness. [/quote] Maybe. I see it as changing the meaning and not making it PC. Making it PC would be making it wife and husband. Changing it to "regular partner" (I see it as not so much of support of Homosexual "marraiges" but more of a cheapening of marriage and a promoting extra and pre martial relations) is changing the meaning. Wife and husband mean long term (life) commitment, regular could mean 1 hour to forever. I see a changed meaning, even barring gender, in there. What happened to seeking the best translation we could get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archbishop 10-K Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 [quote] My plan: Get some real badasses appointed as Bishop of Durham and Archbishop of York. Reinstate the Prince-Bishop indulgence to Dunelm*. Aquisition the Air assault Brigade, the Irish Guards, the RAF and the Royal Navy nuclear submarines (in Scotland) under the Prince-Bishop and march on London. Get appointed PM/King. Disestablish the Church of England. Use MI5 to infiltrate the Orthodox and "persuade" them to recommunicate with Rome. Persuade the *universal* church to allow an English mass with the altar facing the correct way. Recommunicate with Rome. [/quote] I think pretty much every Catholic here would agree with you on that one. But alas, I can't see that happening anytime soon. It's my impression that the Brits have to do everything their way (as evidenced by Henry VIII and that whole British Empire ordeal.) They're probably too full of pride to submit to Rome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomProddy Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 [quote name='Iacobus' date='Jun 27 2004, 06:18 PM'] *I am a nerd I have like 4 translations for some dumb reason, lol* [/quote] I hear that, lol. KJV, DRV, NIV, Good News Bible and RSV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopeful1 Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Jun 26 2004, 11:12 AM'] Trust me, he would curse right back at you. [/quote] LOL!!!! True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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