cmotherofpirl Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 [quote name='DancesforLove' date='Jun 25 2004, 05:14 PM'] I thoroughly disagree with that. I do not agree with same-sex mariages and would never be involved in one but I do not think gays should be hated. With that said, I should add that I do not think same-sex marriages should be allowed in the church strictly because if you are going to say that you are a Catholic and believe the teachings of the church and Bible then you should obey the church and Bible to your best ability and I believe that being gay, you are commiting a very big sin therefore you can't truthfully declare that you are Catholic. [/quote] Nobody said gays should be hated. People which same -sex attraction are not sinning by being attracted to the same sex. The sin is having sexual relationship outside of marriage. All Christians, of any sexual attraction and called to chastity outside of marriage. There are many people with SSA who are faithful Catholics. Action=sin, not attraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 [quote name='Seatbelt Blue' date='Jun 25 2004, 09:34 PM'] You know, this anti-KJV-ism seems more like a zealous rejection of KJV-onlyism than an actual opinion. While the KJV - like all translations - has flaws, it has had an influence on the English language comparable only to Shakespeare. It is beautifully written, poetic, and very prayerful. I keep a KJV as I find it helps get me in a more reverent mood than the rather harsh English of modern translations. English lost some of her poetry a few centuries ago, and the KJV is a relic of that time. In addition, the care taken in making sure the translation was _skillfully written_ is unmatched in any translation before or since, although I hear the Jerusalem is very poetic. [/quote] If you want beautiful poetic language and a good translation, piuck up a copy of the New English Bible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomProddy Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Jun 26 2004, 02:41 PM'] Nobody said gays should be hated. People which same -sex attraction are not sinning by being attracted to the same sex. [/quote] Yep, essentially, one is sin and the other is temptation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 Just a clarification, I don't like the KJV because I think it was translated from bad sources. I said nothing about KJV-onlyism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 [quote name='hopeful1' date='Jun 25 2004, 09:35 PM'] (curses at Martin Luther) [/quote] Trust me, he would curse right back at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 but now that i read the article: Oh my! This is horrible. Satan is crafty and wise, and what better way to achive his agenda than change the scriptures themselves in small suttle ways over time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 On a related note, if you check online dictionaries, many of them have redefined marriage to be PC. Thank God for books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 [quote]I think "Good as New" is a fitting title and a flambouyant sign of just what it means to be part of this "New Age" society. I place special emphasis on the homosexual connotation of the word "flambouyant" I used in the first sentence because this translation blatantly flaunts its support for homosexual marriage and also FORNICATION, which, of course, the Church of England seems to support more and more these days. [/quote] I think that the reason for this is that many Protestant sects, though certainly not all, have begun to embrace the idea of "God loves you anyway" to such an extent that your sins don't matter. They hold the philosophy of "sin all you want, God doesn't mind, he loves you anyway." Then it goes even further: "sin all you want, God doesn't mind, and since He doesn't mind, he's sort of promoting it." Still further: "sin...promoting it, in fact, He really wants you to sin, because then He can forgive you even more." Still further: "sin...forgive you even more, in fact, that's the whole reason Christ died, to allow you to sin without fear of punishment, however just it may be." Many of the sects have embraced the "hippy Jesus" philosophy and I think it's really Satan trying to twist the definitions of "justice" and "mercy". The fact is, God will love you anyway. God loves everything but sin itself; He even loves Satan...but look what He did to Satan... The trouble is, if you tell that to many of these people, they will say, "but God loves us anyway, He wouldn't send us to hell!" My response: "He's not sending you to hell, you're sending yourselves to hell!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomProddy Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 (edited) [quote name='thedude' date='Jun 26 2004, 12:18 AM'] The KJV is the second worst Bible behind this. [/quote] [url="http://www.kenanderson.net/bible/cotton_patch.html"]http://www.kenanderson.net/bible/cotton_patch.html[/url] "Matthew 2:13 After they had checked out, the Lord?s messenger made connection with Joseph in a dream and said, ?Get moving, and take your wife and baby and highball it to Mexico.?" Edited June 27, 2004 by RandomProddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 [quote name='Ellenita' date='Jun 25 2004, 04:57 PM'] This is unbelievable! [url="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3833693.stm"]New Bible Translation[/url] Endorsed by the archbishop of Canterbury..... [/quote] I feel sorry for the Anglicans who are still trying to be faithful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 [quote] I feel sorry for the Anglicans who are still trying to be faithful. [/quote] Given the homosexual bishop, the pro-abort and pro-contraception standpoints, and now this...I think the Anglicans who try to remain faithful are going either going to convert to Catholicism or go into a schismatic Anglican sect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3chrmd Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 :angry: I think I like my New Jerusalem Bible just fine thank you!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im4Him Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 Ick. :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomProddy Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 I think we need a few English Bishops to revert back to Prince-Bishops... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 [quote] I think we need a few English Bishops to revert back to Prince-Bishops...[/quote] Or "The Bishops formerly known as Princes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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