Jack4 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2017/04/04/new_pastoral_provisions_for_sacrament_of_marriage_for_sspx/1303274 http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2017/04/step-by-step-vatican-issues-marriage.html http://wdtprs.com/blog/2017/04/pope-francis-provides-for-valid-sspx-marriages/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Just came here to post the same thing. Reading the commentary at Rorate, it suggests that a priest in good standing (which would mean, non-sspx) would hear the vows and then the nuptial Mass would take place with their priest. Anyone have a different understanding, as it seems like a cart before the horse way of doing things. Of course, it would all be rectified if the sspx priest were to incardinated into the diocese and were granted full faculties. Also raises big questions about those who were married before. Is their a radical sanation coming? I think ecclesia supplet had been pretty much agreed it wouldn't cover this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 37 minutes ago, truthfinder said: Just came here to post the same thing. Reading the commentary at Rorate, it suggests that a priest in good standing (which would mean, non-sspx) would hear the vows and then the nuptial Mass would take place with their priest. Anyone have a different understanding, as it seems like a cart before the horse way of doing things. Of course, it would all be rectified if the sspx priest were to incardinated into the diocese and were granted full faculties. Also raises big questions about those who were married before. Is their a radical sanation coming? I think ecclesia supplet had been pretty much agreed it wouldn't cover this. I believe if you read further, there is also a provision for the Society priest himself to be granted faculties for a specific marriage. It sounds like having a different priest in good standing is the preference, but the SSPX priest can be allowed as a backup. My guess is that this covers those SSPX priests who may not want to cooperate with diocesan priests, and vice versa. Insofar as possible, the Local Ordinary is to grant the delegation to assist at the marriage to a priest of the Diocese (or in any event, to a fully regular priest), such that the priest may receive the consent of the parties during the marriage rite, followed, in keeping with the liturgy of the Vetus ordo, by the celebration of Mass, which may be celebrated by a priest of the Society. Where the above is not possible, or if there are no priests in the Diocese able to receive the consent of the parties, the Ordinary may grant the necessary faculties to the priest of the Society who is also to celebrate the Holy Mass, reminding him of the duty to forward the relevant documents to the Diocesan Curia as soon as possible. - See more at: http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2017/04/step-by-step-vatican-issues-marriage.html#more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I have to say, I find this 'solution' to be kind of weird. It is a halfway compromise that does not really solve anything. I am all for cooperation between the Society and your average diocesan priest. I hope more of that happens in the future, and if this new rule facilitates that, then that is a good thing. But to me this seems like a forced cooperation that nobody asked for. And in my opinion it is simply more proof that nobody is actually concerned with the Society's catholicity. If that were a concern, then it would be highly imprudent to make these 'concessions', if you want to call it that. No, everybody already recognizes that the Society is fully Catholic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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