A Discussion on Married Priests

[Peace]

25 minutes ago, Era Might said:

Yeah, I'm one of those heretics who likes to have conversations about, you know, Catholicism and stuff. Went away from Phatmass for 9 months. Came back cuz I like, you know, to talk about Catholicism, and stuff. Guess I'm not welcome, anymore. Peace. Sorry for derailing your thread, carry on.

You do not want to discuss. You just want to criticize the Church and feed your own ego.

[Era Might]

14 minutes ago, Peace said:

You do not want to discuss. You just want to criticize the Church and feed your own ego.

Sorry if your fragile ego can't handle the church being called a whore, and the temple being reduced to a pile of stones. I've been in the church, and on Phatmass, probably a lot longer and more seriously than you. I don't boast that except, like St. Paul, to note I'm no stranger to what I talk about. You confuse Archie Bunker with O.J. Simpson. I fight with the church because I love her. You can't handle solid meat. You're still at the teet of faith. You want the church to be a nice neat Thing for you to believe in. I love the church because she's a whore, not despite it. I'll fight her until I'm dead, and maybe, find the face of Christ at the end, like Jacob wrestling the Angel.

That's really my last post. Make peace with your brother before you approach the altar. So peace to you and to all.

Edited March 24, 2017 by Era Might

[dominicansoul]

On 3/23/2017 at 1:23 PM, Era Might said:

The idea that a kid who enters the priesthood magically becomes a wise man, is romanticized superstition, IMO. There is a real world has nothing to do with career life, not just the priesthood. The professional life is a sheltered life of privilege. That's why parents want their kids to become professionals, to have an Ideal life that has nothing to do with the real world. Yes, Jesus lived 30 years at home...that's exactly the point! He wasn't a professional, he kept to himself. The Apostles were just a bunch of fools learning at the feet of Jesus, who himself was a despised outcast from the professional religion of the pharisees and temple. The Apostles had to be "baptised" into the real world. They weren't a clean cut band of chancery soldiers. St. Paul earned his authority, not in a seminary, but in beatings, in boatwrecks, in schisms, etc. He, too, was a despised fool. Wisdom and experience are hard earned; I'm not saying every priest has to be a man of the world, but the priesthood should not be modelled after the clerical model of professional priests. But, I realize that rethinking the role of the priest has practical consequences for the entire institutional model of parishes, etc.

I can see your point.  It kinda goes hand in hand with the rant I had earlier in the thread.  Of course, there are weak human beings who are priests.  Some of them forget their priestly ordination, the entire reason why they became priests in the first place, and it shows!  I get that.  Some you think have a rigid strict characterization of the priesthood and seem mechanical and institutionalized drones with no "life experience"...perhaps those exist as well.  But what I'm getting at is, it doesn't matter WHO a priest IS, it is WHO THEY REPRESENT that matters.  And they are definitely infused with graces beyond our imagination to act in the Person of Jesus Christ.  IT's not superstitious, Era, it's not like rubbing a rabbit's foot and hoping that will win you the lottery!  This is something entirely different.  The laying of hands by a Bishop upon a man to ordain him into the Priesthood is nothing short of an extraordinary miracle, where the very Breath of Christ falls upon him, and he is given the power and the authority of Christ on earth...

...there's nothing really superstitious about it...

 

And the priest you wish were in existence actually do exist.  Like the priest I described earlier, a man who had no place to rest his head, who traveled on foot throughout the country he loved, island hopping from one village to the next, trusting only in God for his life's needs while bringing others to Jesus Christ....those priests DO exist!  But every priest, although united in the Person of Christ, are still very unique individuals who do not fit into a mold.  

2 hours ago, Era Might said:

That's really my last post. Make peace with your brother before you approach the altar. So peace to you and to all.

See you perhaps in another 6 months?  Don't stay away too long Era, your Mother is always calling you home...

[Peace]

3 hours ago, Era Might said:

Sorry if your fragile ego can't handle the church being called a whore, and the temple being reduced to a pile of stones. I've been in the church, and on Phatmass, probably a lot longer and more seriously than you. I don't boast that except, like St. Paul, to note I'm no stranger to what I talk about. You confuse Archie Bunker with O.J. Simpson. I fight with the church because I love her. You can't handle solid meat. You're still at the teet of faith. You want the church to be a nice neat Thing for you to believe in. I love the church because she's a whore, not despite it. I'll fight her until I'm dead, and maybe, find the face of Christ at the end, like Jacob wrestling the Angel.

That's really my last post. Make peace with your brother before you approach the altar. So peace to you and to all.

Whatever man.

[Jack4]

12 hours ago, Era Might said:

Oh. Well, since you're wise and not ignorant, you'd know. Maybe some day the ignorant will be deemed worthy to post on Phatmass.

Epistemology, epistemology. Every sentence in this post of yours addresses something I've not claimed.