little2add Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Josh said: Who exactly was gawking at the picture? Are you serious? as a heart attack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomaly Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 5 hours ago, Josh said: Who exactly was gawking at the picture? Are you serious? Josh, There is a large age range of visitors/lurkers here. From pre-teen through over 70. Not all have travassed the turbulent hormonal waters of puberty and reached the safe harbor of a mature sexual mindset. It "may" have been an inappropriate picture for some and it is dUSt's privilege AND responsibility to set and enforce the threshold on his website, according to his conscience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 What intrinsic value does a painting of a well endowed mature young lady to a member of the opposite sex other than physical attraction? The art work in question is clearly objectifying womanhood and is below contempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 1 hour ago, little2add said: What intrinsic value does a painting of a well endowed mature young lady to a member of the opposite sex other than physical attraction? The art work in question is clearly objectifying womanhood and is below contempt. That is absolutely absurd and myopic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spem in alium Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 1 hour ago, little2add said: What intrinsic value does a painting of a well endowed mature young lady to a member of the opposite sex other than physical attraction? The art work in question is clearly objectifying womanhood and is below contempt. I found the artwork very beautiful. I've spent a few years studying nude figures (I'm a trained art historian) and can tell you that images like these do not objectify women. Other nude images, yes, but not this one. Maybe this sort of image should not be posted on PM, but it is not pornography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 9 minutes ago, Spem in alium said: I found the artwork very beautiful. I've spent a few years studying nude figures (I'm a trained art historian) and can tell you that images like these do not objectify women. Other nude images, yes, but not this one. Maybe this sort of image should not be posted on PM, but it is not pornography. My friend. I did not know you are an art historian. Much respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spem in alium Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, Nihil Obstat said: My friend. I did not know you are an art historian. Much respect. Thank you, my friend. Yes, I have just completed my doctorate in art history, with some specialised study before that. My focus was on how masculinity and fatherhood were represented in a series of 16th century engravings of St Joseph. It's been a wonderful few years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Spem in alium said: Thank you, my friend. Yes, I have just completed my doctorate in art history, with some specialised study before that. My focus was on how masculinity and fatherhood were represented in a series of 16th century engravings of St Joseph. It's been a wonderful few years! Is your thesis available publicly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, Spem in alium said: Thank you, my friend. Yes, I have just completed my doctorate in art history, with some specialised study before that. My focus was on how masculinity and fatherhood were represented in a series of 16th century engravings of St Joseph. It's been a wonderful few years! I have literally the same question as Nihil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomaly Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 2 hours ago, little2add said: What intrinsic value does a painting of a well endowed mature young lady to a member of the opposite sex other than physical attraction? The art work in question is clearly objectifying womanhood and is below contempt. There is a lot of intrinsic beauty in a person's body. We find what we look for in Art. I personally thought the picture was okay. I thought it was thematically still but not peaceful. It didn't look it it critically for long and it was in a 4" phone screen. Google the artist and look at it in a larger size then google Rubens and see some of the nudes or semi clad he did, such as Daniel in the lions den. The beauty is in the body, its naturalness, the accomplishment and technique of the painter, the elements of a deeper story the artist may be conveying. Etc., etc. If you just stop at the superficial image and only let that touch your baser instincts, you do a disservice to yourself, the work, and the artist. (Which was part of the problem with the art being brought up in a snide joke meme thread. Too much of a journey from the meme to Art appreciation for some.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Nihil Obstat said: That is absolutely absurd and myopic. So is your face 4 minutes ago, Anomaly said: There is a lot of intrinsic beauty in a person's body. We find what we look for in Art. I personally thought the picture was okay. I thought it was thematically still but not peaceful. It didn't look it it critically for long and it was in a 4" phone screen. Google the artist and look at it in a larger size then google Rubens and see some of the nudes or semi clad he did, such as Daniel in the lions den. The beauty is in the body, its naturalness, the accomplishment and technique of the painter, the elements of a deeper story the artist may be conveying. Etc., etc. If you just stop at the superficial image and only let that touch your baser instincts, you do a disservice to yourself, the work, and the artist. (Which was part of the problem with the art being brought up in a snide joke meme thread. Too much of a journey from the meme to Art appreciation for some.) Beauty is skin deep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomaly Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, little2add said: Beauty is skin deep LOL. For some, it is. Thankfully my wife isn't committed to that standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximilianus Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 There is the saying "Never talk about religion or politics". I also add firearms, the military and Art. This Phatmass episode reminds me an experience I had. For one of my Art course I had to do a paper about an artist whose work evolved from a different movement. The subject I chose is a modern artist that started off abstract expressionist in the 1950s and wound up a realist, he's especially known for his nudes. So I go off to the university library, check out some books on the artist and then go to the library computers to search for his works to have a comparison to display. While doing my research one of the library attendees comes up to me and tells me that I have to leave the library. I looked at him like he had tentacles growing out of his head and asked why. He stated that someone came to him with a complaint that I was looking a pornography. I grabbed my stuff, which included the books I checked out which had the same stuff I was viewing on the computer, and explained to the librarian what I was doing. My professor was amused by the story, I'm glad I had those books to back me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomaly Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) On 1/14/2017 at 10:47 AM, LittleWaySoul said: I wonder if we'd have less of a problem with porn addiction today if we as a society would stop fearing/shaming the image of the naked body and learn to see it with reverence and respect. Very excellent point. It's not only the fear and shame, but trivializing, objectifying, as well as over-sexualizing the body to sell porn, makeup, cars, and superficiality. That's why some Muslims feel they need to hide a woman's body, because they won't look beyond a limited female sexuality to the entirety of the person mind and heart. Edited January 15, 2017 by Anomaly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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