Lefebvre Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 I declare and swear that His Holiness, Francis, Supreme Pontiff, is Christ's Vice-regent, and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth. I'm really tired of being what my brother described as 'Catholic, but meaner'. Sedevacantism is justified criticism of VII taken to its farthest extreme; and descending into schism, hard-heartedness, and bitterness. I'm done with being a bitter Catholic, and will be attending confession at my regular old in-communion parish on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) Just now, Lefebvre said: I declare and swear that His Holiness, Francis, Supreme Pontiff, is Christ's Vice-regent, and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth. Michael Matt and Hilary White do not approve!!! Edited November 28, 2016 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 5 hours ago, Josh said: Michael Matt and Hilary White do not approve!!! Michael Matt is not a sedevacantist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthfinder Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Nihil Obstat said: Michael Matt is not a sedevacantist. Nor is Hilary afaik. Edited November 28, 2016 by truthfinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) She just hates the Pope and calls him a "*** hag". Edited November 28, 2016 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Nasty invective is not synonymous with sedevacantism. It is not just a catch-all insult for traditionalists you do not like. 22 minutes ago, truthfinder said: Nor is Hilary afaik. Yeah, I have never seen her claim anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) Nasty language doesn't bother me. I'm listening to Eminem right now. He uses the word ****** but he doest call the Holy Father that. If he did I would have to stop listening to him. And if he claimed to be Catholic I would be highly suspicious. I would probably want to punch him in the face if on top of all that he talked **** about the Mass I go to and try to fill my head with doubts of it's validity. Edited November 28, 2016 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Josh said: Nasty language doesn't bother me. I'm listening to Eminem right now. He uses the word ****** but he doest call the Holy Father that. If he did I would have to stop listening to him. And if he claimed to be Catholic I would be highly suspicious. But that would not make him a sedevacantist. It would make him a person who uses nasty language to disrespect the Holy Father. Again, sedevacantist is not a catch-all insult for traditionalists you do not like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 I never called either of them a sedevacantist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Josh said: I never called either of them a sedevacantist. You strongly implied that by saying that Michael Matt and Hilary White would not approve of his renunciation of sedevacantism. Why would they not approve if they are not themselves sedevacantists? Frankly it seems to be bordering on calumny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) I don't know what the title of a person is who writes "Catholic articles" and calls the Holy Father a ****** in them and in interviews . Or the title of the guy who publishes them. Edited November 28, 2016 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Josh said: I don't know what the title of a person is who writes "Catholic articles" and calls the Holy Father a ****** in them and in interviews . Or the title of the guy who publishes them. Well in this case, not a sedevacantist, and you should not imply otherwise. I am not saying you have to like her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 I agree not a sedevacantist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 5 hours ago, Nihil Obstat said: But that would not make him a sedevacantist. It would make him a person who uses nasty language to disrespect the Holy Father. Again, sedevacantist is not a catch-all insult for traditionalists you do not like. 5 hours ago, Nihil Obstat said: Well in this case, not a sedevacantist, and you should not imply otherwise. I am not saying you have to like her. Not a sedevacantist, but pretty obviously, an anti-Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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