Clinton Emails: Insulting Attempt to Manipulate Catholic Church

[Socrates]

On 10/15/2016 at 1:38 PM, Peace said:

The world ends in 2017. Socradamus has prophesied it.

No mystical prophetic powers are needed to see the obvious truth that, though she may lie about nearly everything else, the Cackling Witch will keep her promise to nominate for SC justices activists committed to upholding Roe v. Wade, who will likely strike down state laws restricting abortion, thus undoing much of the past decades' pro-life progress.  We can also expect further assaults on freedom of religious conscience regarding paying for contraceptives and abortion.

You're deluding yourselves if you expect otherwise from her.

[Peace]

19 hours ago, Socrates said:

No mystical prophetic powers are needed to see the obvious truth that, though she may lie about nearly everything else, the Cackling Witch will keep her promise to nominate for SC justices activists committed to upholding Roe v. Wade, who will likely strike down state laws restricting abortion, thus undoing much of the past decades' pro-life progress.  We can also expect further assaults on freedom of religious conscience regarding paying for contraceptives and abortion.

You're deluding yourselves if you expect otherwise from her.

I must give it to you Socrates. First you attempt to foretell the future, and then you attempt to rewrite the past. Although you failed miserably at both, I give you a C+ for the effort.

I did not call you Socradamus for any of the above statements. That is not what you wrote. I called you Socradamus because of this statement:

"If the Cackling Witch is elected President and nominates SCOTUS justices and federal judges, neither the pro-life movement nor religious liberty have any future in this country."

That is fortune telling. You have no idea whether the judges she wants will even get past the Senate, let alone whether the pro-life movement and religious freedom will die. 

You would have done much better for yourself if you had responded by writing "My dear Peace, I was simply exaggerating. Both you and I know that I am incapable of stating facts objectively." 

 

[Norseman82]

On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Peace said:

The world ends in 2017. Socradamus has prophesied it.

If not sooner.  After all, the Cubs are in the World Series, so.....

[Socrates]

4 hours ago, Peace said:

I must give it to you Socrates. First you attempt to foretell the future, and then you attempt to rewrite the past. Although you failed miserably at both, I give you a C+ for the effort.

I did not call you Socradamus for any of the above statements. That is not what you wrote. I called you Socradamus because of this statement:

"If the Cackling Witch is elected President and nominates SCOTUS justices and federal judges, neither the pro-life movement nor religious liberty have any future in this country."

That is fortune telling. You have no idea whether the judges she wants will even get past the Senate, let alone whether the pro-life movement and religious freedom will die. 

You would have done much better for yourself if you had responded by writing "My dear Peace, I was simply exaggerating. Both you and I know that I am incapable of stating facts objectively." 

 

And I give you an F in thinking realistically.

I think you know darn well what I meant, though maybe I could have clarified to say that I meant the pro-life movement would not have any political victories in the foreseeable future.  (Of course, the movement will presumably continue to pray and protest.)

Again, you're deluding yourself if you think Hillary will ever nominate anyone even remotely pro-life or pro religious freedom.  You're also deluding yourself if you think this spineless, corrupt Mitch McConnell-led Senate will somehow force her to do so (that's presuming the GOP holds the Senate).  At best we might end up with a slightly more "moderate" pro-abortion leftist activist than her first pick.

There is not a single Dem-nominated justice on the SCOTUS who does not vote solidly pro-abortion, etc., and there is absolutely no reason to believe this will somehow change under Hillary Rodham Clinton.  (Remember, this is the woman who thinks religious beliefs against abortion "need to be changed.")  A snowball has a much better chance in hell.

[Peace]

6 hours ago, Socrates said:

And I give you an F in thinking realistically.

I think you know darn well what I meant, though maybe I could have clarified to say that I meant the pro-life movement would not have any political victories in the foreseeable future.  (Of course, the movement will presumably continue to pray and protest.)

Again, you're deluding yourself if you think Hillary will ever nominate anyone even remotely pro-life or pro religious freedom.  You're also deluding yourself if you think this spineless, corrupt Mitch McConnell-led Senate will somehow force her to do so (that's presuming the GOP holds the Senate).  At best we might end up with a slightly more "moderate" pro-abortion leftist activist than her first pick.

There is not a single Dem-nominated justice on the SCOTUS who does not vote solidly pro-abortion, etc., and there is absolutely no reason to believe this will somehow change under Hillary Rodham Clinton.  (Remember, this is the woman who thinks religious beliefs against abortion "need to be changed.")  A snowball has a much better chance in hell.

The same spineless Senate who refuses to hold a vote on the current nominee?

Pray for the president, and for Congress.

[Socrates]

On 10/26/2016 at 5:08 AM, Peace said:

The same spineless Senate who refuses to hold a vote on the current nominee?

Okay, I'll give them credit where credit is due here, but they're holding out til the election, and there's a standing tradition of never confirming a Supreme Court justice during an election year.  After January, they'll have to confirm someone, regardless of who's President.  No GOP-led Senate has forced the confirmation of a constitutionalist justice before, and there's no reason to expect McConnell & co. to perform that feat.  Of course, if the Dems take the Senate, the odds of any semi-decent justice being appointed are absolutely non-existent.

Anyway you slice it, a Hillary Clinton presidency is bad, bad news for both the right to life and constitutional liberties.  Sorry, but there's no getting around that.

 

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Pray for the president, and for Congress.

First  politically-related thing I've seen you post that I can heartily agree with.

Edited October 30, 2016 by Socrates