Ladies, would you wear a veil at a Protestant church?

[Anastasia13]

Let's say you have occasion to be at a Protestant church during their service, would you wear a veil there? Would it be different than at a Catholic Church?

[beatitude]

I only ever wear my mantilla in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament, so no.

[Quasar]

I wouldn't, for the same reason beatitude gave.

however, this makes me curious: do we know for sure that Protestant churches don't have the real presence?  Lutherans and Episcopalians believe they do, so I wonder if it's an issue where we don't have any assurance that they have the real presence, or whether we simply know they don't.  This seems bound to the issue of veiling, to me.

Edited October 9, 2016 by Quasar

[truthfinder]

Same as beatitude,

and @Quasar I'd say the pronouncements on this are very firm from the Church - Protestant churches do not have the true presence, and none of them believe in transubstantiation. Lutherans believe in consubstantiation, others transignification, etc. 

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

6 hours ago, truthfinder said:

Same as beatitude,

and @Quasar I'd say the pronouncements on this are very firm from the Church - Protestant churches do not have the true presence, and none of them believe in transubstantiation. Lutherans believe in consubstantiation, others transignification, etc. 

If you attended an Anglo-Catholic church (a subset of the Anglican/Episcopalian) church, you'd probably find that the priest and most of the congregation personally believed in transubstantiation. (I say "most" of the congregation because I can't look inside people's heads to check exactly what they believe.) 

Obviously this doesn't mean a Catholic should take Communion at an Anglican church--even an Anglo-Catholic church. When the Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury recently presided at a service together it was a Vespers service--a very diplomatic choice, I thought.

Conversely, although I personally believe in transubstantiation, out of respect, I would not take Communion in a Catholic church.

[Makarioi]

If I have to attend a Protestant weekend service for whatever reason, I don't take part in the passing of the bread.  I make sure I attend Catholic Mass that weekend though! 

[Archaeology cat]

I veil when in the Presence of the Blessed Sacrament only, be that at Mass, Adoration, Eucharistic procession, etc. But no, not at a Protestant service. 

[Guest]

Only a Catholic Bishop can ordain a priest conferring power to change bread and wine into The Body and Blood of Jesus (Transubstantiation) -  in our Catholic understanding, doctrine and theology.  Therefore, I would not receive the bread and/or wine in a non Catholic service.

If I did veil (reason I do not given in another thread), I would only veil in a Catholic Church in the Presence of The Blessed Sacrament.

Edited October 10, 2016 by BarbaraTherese

[Quasar]

Just to clarify, I don't think anyone on this thread suggested Catholics might receive communion at a Protestant church.  I asked about how definitive the Church is regarding the absence of the Real Presence in Protestant communion, as it pertains to the issue of veiling. 

[beatitude]

7 hours ago, BarbaraTherese said:

Only a Catholic Bishop can ordain a priest conferring power to change bread and wine into The Body and Blood of Jesus (Transubstantiation) -  in our Catholic understanding, doctrine and theology.  Therefore, I would not receive the bread and/or wine in a non Catholic service.

If I did veil (reason I do not given in another thread), I would only veil in a Catholic Church in the Presence of The Blessed Sacrament.

The Eastern Orthodox have valid sacraments, so Jesus is truly present in their liturgy too.  I've always covered my head when visiting Orthodox churches and shrines (in fact, they usually expect it - once I was literally chased round a church by an indignant Orthodox nun because she didn't consider me properly dressed!).

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, beatitude said:

once I was literally chased round a church by an indignant Orthodox nun because she didn't consider me properly dressed

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[TheLordsSouljah]

I think here we must question why we veil in the first place, that is, out of love, respect and honour for the Real Presence. 'Protestant' usually refers to those Christians are not in communion with the Church. If this is the case with the church you speak of, then there is no Real Presence. Thus, I would not veil. If someone came up to you and asked why you veil, what answer would you give? I mean, you can, but it would be more to look pretty hehe  

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

7 hours ago, beatitude said:

The Eastern Orthodox have valid sacraments, so Jesus is truly present in their liturgy too.  I've always covered my head when visiting Orthodox churches and shrines (in fact, they usually expect it - once I was literally chased round a church by an indignant Orthodox nun because she didn't consider me properly dressed!).

Beatitude--I TOLD you to save those sequined hot pantaloons for the privacy of your own home! 

[LittleWaySoul]

On 10/10/2016 at 8:08 AM, beatitude said:

The Eastern Orthodox have valid sacraments, so Jesus is truly present in their liturgy too.  I've always covered my head when visiting Orthodox churches and shrines (in fact, they usually expect it - once I was literally chased round a church by an indignant Orthodox nun because she didn't consider me properly dressed!).

From what I understand, some Anglicans have the Eucharist as well because of a rogue bishop who validly ordained other bishops and priests a while ago. Depending on who a priest was ordained by and whether the rite of ordination was correct, he could have the power to confect the Eucharist. But this is getting more complex than really necessary.

[Quasar]

Any story that contains the phrase "rogue bishop" is worth telling.