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Yo, do you pronounce "Nihil" as NEE-heel or NEE-keel? I recently learned that the "H" in Latin is sometimes pronounced with a "K" sound.

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I asked this, too. Apparently, the 'k' sound is the original Roman pronunciation. Liturgical Latin developed the 'h' pronunciation. Or something like that. I'm sure someone will come in and correct me. I just needed to say that the 'k' pronunciation is horrible and should be wiped off the face of the planet. I want to elbow people in the jaw when they use it next to me.

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I know very little about Latin although I was told in one of the two Latin classes I had that classical Latin and liturgical Latin are somtimes pronounced differently.


I've always heard it prounced with an 'h' not a 'k'. But again, I know nothing about Latin.

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5 hours ago, Gabriela said:

 I want to elbow people in the jaw when they use it next to me.

I'll remember to stand far away from you :)

@Nihil Obstat I think this discussion has happened before. 

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My understanding is that it is a little bit between an h and a k sound. Not exactly a sound with an English analogue... I think of it as  niː -   xɪl .

Keep in mind I have never studied Latin.

Also, thanks for tagging me, @truthfinder. I may not have seen this for a while otherwise. :)

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hmm, just looked that up, and it's saying voiceless velar fricative, similar to the Scottish 'loch' (not "lock").  Which doesn't that almost put it up there with a glottal stop?

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45 minutes ago, truthfinder said:

hmm, just looked that up, and it's saying voiceless velar fricative, similar to the Scottish 'loch' (not "lock").  Which doesn't that almost put it up there with a glottal stop?

Kind of like a glottal stop without the stop. :P I think. I only got a D in Linguistics. . . :sad2: 

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Huh. That means it's like chet in Hebrew or "ch" in German, no? Like "L'chaim" or "Ich"? That would be much better than a hard k. Seriously, hard k incites to violence... :hard shudder emoticon:

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LittleWaySoul

That's kind of what I was thinking! It sounds so odd in my head pronounced with a hard K. I'm in Latin right now and we're trying to get ecclesial/classical pronunciation differences ironed out so that's why I was wondering. 

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13 minutes ago, Gabriela said:

Huh. That means it's like chet in Hebrew or "ch" in German, no? Like "L'chaim" or "Ich"? That would be much better than a hard k. Seriously, hard k incites to violence... :hard shudder emoticon:

Yes, that is my understanding.

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