Jansenism

[Amppax]

1 hour ago, Nihil Obstat said:

I was reading Predestination by Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange, and there was a fascinating contest between predestinationism on one hand and Pelagianism on the other, with Catholic predestination being the true golden mean. It was a sense in which I had not considered Pelagianism before.

I was actually just talking to someone about that passage. It is funny how Pelagianism and Jansenism, though opposites in so many ways, practically produce such similar outcomes: rigorism and joylessness. 

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2 hours ago, Nihil Obstat said:

Predestination by Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange

Thank you for the suggestion.  I just got it and look forward to reading it.

[Nihil Obstat]

I said contest above, I think that was an autocorrect from contrast. Makes better sense that way.

2 hours ago, Amppax said:

I was actually just talking to someone about that passage. It is funny how Pelagianism and Jansenism, though opposites in so many ways, practically produce such similar outcomes: rigorism and joylessness. 

For a Pelagian, who believes that he can merit salvation, it must be a horrible experience to feel that real sense of concupiscence that just inevitably proves that no, you are not good enough. He does not really have that option to abandon himself to divine providence.

[PhuturePriest]

9 hours ago, Amppax said:

I was actually just talking to someone about that passage. It is funny how Pelagianism and Jansenism, though opposites in so many ways, practically produce such similar outcomes: rigorism and joylessness. 

My spiritual director told me scrupulosity (Jansenism) was ultimately Pelagian in nature, because the scrupulous person believes they can merit heaven if they are perfect enough.