Muslim Refugee Brought To Maine By Catholic Charities Dies Waging Jihad For The Islamic State

[Guest]

Muslim refugee brought to Maine by Catholic Charities dies waging jihad for the Islamic State

AUGUST 16, 2016 6:46 PM BY ROBERT SPENCER

Catholic Charities is criminally irresponsible and suicidally short-sighted. They are endangering people in Maine and all over the United States by bringing these jihadis into American communities that are unprepared for them, all the while lying to them and telling them that there is no jihad threat related to the refugees, and that anyone who says otherwise is a racist and a bigot and adissenter from the magisterium.

Adnan Fazeli went to the Islamic State to wage his jihad. What if he had decided to wage it right there in Portland, Maine? What’s to stop the next jihadi refugee that Catholic Charities brings to Portland from deciding to do just that?

“Documents: Freeport man died fighting for Islamic State,” by Scott Dolan and Megan Doyle,Portland Press Herald, August 16, 2016:

An Iranian man who came to Maine as a refugee in 2009 became radicalized in his Islamic faith while living here and was fighting for the Islamic State when he was killed last year in Lebanon, according to newly unsealed federal court documents.

Adnan Fazeli, 38, most recently of Freeport, came under investigation by the FBI for his connection to the terrorist group shortly after he left his job at Dubai Auto in Portland to fly to Turkey on Aug. 13, 2013, and never returned.

Fazeli, who also went by the names Abu Nawaf and Abu Abdullah Al-Ahwazi, was killed on Jan. 23, 2015, in a battle near Ras Baalbek in Lebanon as part of an Islamic State attack force of about 150 that was thwarted by the Lebanese army.

Those details, which were never revealed publicly before, were contained in an affidavit filed in U.S. District Court in Portland last Oct. 27 by Maine State Police Detective George Loder, who was acting as a member of an FBI task force investigating whether other people were aware of Fazeli’s plans to fight for the Islamic State, helped him travel to the Iraq-Syria-Lebanon area or supported his efforts there. The affidavit remained under seal during the investigation, which ended with no criminal charges.

The affidavit gives the accounts of four anonymous informants for the FBI who described how Fazeli’s behavior began to change about a year after he came to the Portland area through Catholic Charities Refugee and Immigration Services. They told the FBI that Fazeli frequently watched hours of Islamic videos online, grew a beard and began making anti-American remarks while at an Iraqi market in Portland.

While the informants are not named in the affidavit, Fazeli’s nephew, Ebrahim Fazeli, told the Portland Press Herald on Monday that he informed the FBI about his uncle after Adnan Fazeli called the family from Turkey. The affidavit describes one of the informants as a close relative of Fazeli’s.

“Fazeli’s change in behavior alienated him from many of his Shia and moderate Sunni friends in the area. However, there were a few local Sunnis who supported his fervor and treated him with a great deal of respect. Fazeli started holding occasional religious meetings at his home in Freeport,” Loder said in the affidavit, describing what one informant had said.

Ebrahim Fazeli, 25, said the family was unaware of his uncle’s plans to leave the United States. His uncle had become more religious and grew a substantial beard, but the nephew said no one realized he had become radicalized.

“That wasn’t enough for me to think an educated, smart guy has it in him to join an insane group of people,” said Ebrahim Fazeli, who lives in the Greater Portland area….

Fazeli initially came to the United States as a refugee in 2009, but did not adapt well. He told one informant that he hated Iran because the government was anti-Sunni and felt the United States had done nothing to help. Although Fazeli was raised a Shia Muslim, his family was not devout, one of the informants said. His behavior began to change while in the U.S., and he converted to Wahhabism, an austere form of Sunni Islam….

While Fazeli was abroad, he continued to communicate by Skype chats with at least one of the informants, who later shared videos of the chats with FBI investigators. In one video, Fazeli said that he and his Islamic State allies could kill 1,000 enemies for every 10 of their own killed. In another video, he wore a khaki camouflage military uniform and inquired whether any U.S. government authorities had begun asking questions about him….

Fazeli’s relative called the FBI on Jan. 26, 2015, to report that Fazeli had been killed, according to the affidavit. The same relative emailed a copy of a news article in Arabic from the Lebanese newspaper An-Nahar to the FBI on Jan. 28, 2015, that describes how “tens” of ISIS fighters were killed in a clash in Ras Baalbek, a Lebanese Christian town near the Syrian border threatened by both the Islamic State and al-Qaida in Syria. The article listed one of the dead as Abu Abdullah Al-Ahwazi, Fazeli’s other name….

Jalali said Fazeli self-identified as Arab, not Iranian, because he came from the southern and western part of Iran. In Maine, he mingled primarily with Iraqis.

“He talked about enjoying religious freedom here. That’s why I am so shocked,” Jalali said. “He praised this society for its openness.

“How he could go through that transformation, that’s a mystery. That’s quite heartbreaking. It reminds us of the power of social media, brainwashing bright, educated men and turn them into fighters or killers.”…

The medium is not the problem. The message is the problem. This is not a story about the power of social media. It is a story about the power of Islam’s call to jihad.

[Maggyie]

He wasn't a refugee jihadi. 

[HisChildForever]

The article said that he didn't become radical until after he came here.

[CatherineM]

We don't help them because they are Catholics. We help them because we are Catholics. You can nurture and raise a child in the best of circumstances and they can still become a murderer. This is the nature of free will. 

[Archaeology cat]

1 hour ago, CatherineM said:

We don't help them because they are Catholics. We help them because we are Catholics. You can nurture and raise a child in the best of circumstances and they can still become a murderer. This is the nature of free will. 

This.

[Selah]

6 hours ago, CatherineM said:

We don't help them because they are Catholics. We help them because we are Catholics. You can nurture and raise a child in the best of circumstances and they can still become a murderer. This is the nature of free will. 

Yes. 

[dUSt]

16 hours ago, CatherineM said:

We don't help them because they are Catholics. We help them because we are Catholics. You can nurture and raise a child in the best of circumstances and they can still become a murderer. This is the nature of free will. 

This.

[Maggyie]

Edited August 19, 2016 by Maggyie

[Selah]

54 minutes ago, Maggyie said:

 kyrie eleison 

[Maggyie]

On August 17, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Josh said:

Muslim refugee brought to Maine by Catholic Charities dies waging jihad for the Islamic State

AUGUST 16, 2016 6:46 PM BY ROBERT SPENCER.

My posting of the above illustration, Josh, is to remind you of what this issue is about. When you (and I) get to the gates of Heaven for our judgment, these children will be waiting for us in the arms of Jesus. At that time Jesus will not ask us "did you keep America 100% safe from Muslim Jihadis?" He will ask what we did for these children and the rest of the poorest and smallest. 

And if he doesn't like our answer, he promised us in Scripture that we will be LOST.

God's ears are full of the cry of the poor. He doesn't hear our hand-wringing and self indulgent article writing about how scared we should be of these refugees. From our fat, luxuriant sofas and armchairs in air conditioned rooms with high speed internet, our concerns (based on fear) are of no interest to him.

Jesus says in Scripture, "Do not be afraid, little flock." The context is so loving and gentle it's easy to miss that this is a COMMAND. the word "safe" does not appear in the Gospel. Pagans are obsessed with safety. 

The people who run Catholic Charities Refugee Services are saving their own souls by doing so. Remember that we will have to look Jesus in the eyes, and "I was afraid" won't be good enough. Personally I dread that day for myself. 

[Archaeology cat]

11 hours ago, Maggyie said:

My posting of the above illustration, Josh, is to remind you of what this issue is about. When you (and I) get to the gates of Heaven for our judgment, these children will be waiting for us in the arms of Jesus. At that time Jesus will not ask us "did you keep America 100% safe from Muslim Jihadis?" He will ask what we did for these children and the rest of the poorest and smallest. 

And if he doesn't like our answer, he promised us in Scripture that we will be LOST.

God's ears are full of the cry of the poor. He doesn't hear our hand-wringing and self indulgent article writing about how scared we should be of these refugees. From our fat, luxuriant sofas and armchairs in air conditioned rooms with high speed internet, our concerns (based on fear) are of no interest to him.

Jesus says in Scripture, "Do not be afraid, little flock." The context is so loving and gentle it's easy to miss that this is a COMMAND. the word "safe" does not appear in the Gospel. Pagans are obsessed with safety. 

The people who run Catholic Charities Refugee Services are saving their own souls by doing so. Remember that we will have to look Jesus in the eyes, and "I was afraid" won't be good enough. Personally I dread that day for myself. 

Yes!

11 hours ago, Maggyie said:

My posting of the above illustration, Josh, is to remind you of what this issue is about. When you (and I) get to the gates of Heaven for our judgment, these children will be waiting for us in the arms of Jesus. At that time Jesus will not ask us "did you keep America 100% safe from Muslim Jihadis?" He will ask what we did for these children and the rest of the poorest and smallest. 

And if he doesn't like our answer, he promised us in Scripture that we will be LOST.

God's ears are full of the cry of the poor. He doesn't hear our hand-wringing and self indulgent article writing about how scared we should be of these refugees. From our fat, luxuriant sofas and armchairs in air conditioned rooms with high speed internet, our concerns (based on fear) are of no interest to him.

Jesus says in Scripture, "Do not be afraid, little flock." The context is so loving and gentle it's easy to miss that this is a COMMAND. the word "safe" does not appear in the Gospel. Pagans are obsessed with safety. 

The people who run Catholic Charities Refugee Services are saving their own souls by doing so. Remember that we will have to look Jesus in the eyes, and "I was afraid" won't be good enough. Personally I dread that day for myself. 

Yes!

[Selah]

My best friend and I were discussing that. How we are not called to be safe. We're called to follow Christ. And it can be so hard. 

Edited August 20, 2016 by Selah

[hotpink]

I am not a mind reader but part of me wants to say that it's not having those persons who were radicalized come over covertly that's really scaring us about this.

It's that a perfectly normal young man who was suffering came over and was radicalized.  It's our own fault.  As Americans we are totally responsible for the poverty, social isolation, and cruelty these immigrants face on a daily basis.  Part of this is compassion fatigue.  With so many people illegally coming over, many people don't have the time, energy or patience to deal with immigrants after being twice hit by an unlicensed, uninsured driver twice in in a year.  Or being poor and having the food pantry run out of food, or being inelegible for benefits because those resources are being taken up by those who are not following the rules.  Many, even in their poverty are often the most generous, but so many people are being bleed dry by the needs of others.  Our food pantry doubled in the number of families it was serving.  We don't ask any questions, we just want people not to be hungry.  We run out of things on a regular basis now, because even though the donations have doubled also, we just can't keep up.  Those who have time to stand in line do, but then there's those who are working and make decent money on paper but have debt or health troubles or elderly parents or had addictions or arrests in their past but are working.  They don't have time to stand in line, they arrive late and there's little left for them.  It's sad.

And in the mix of all of the poor citizens and those who are here not legally, we have those we have allowed to come.  They don't speak the language, and unlike those here illegally, don't have strong community support and they have absolutely no family. (Those here without permission of the government often come for family).  They are so very, very isolated and somehow even more hated by the general public.  We also make things unnecessary difficult.  So many are doctors, nurses, talented chefs, engineers, even physicists  and we offer them piece work in factories.  It would seem that we would do everything possible to help them move their credentials to these high-needs areas but it just dosn't happen.  Someone could come over on an HB1 visa and live a comfortable American dream sort of life, but if they came over as a refugee with the same education and experience not be hired because of the refugee stigma.  It's terrible.

And in the end, again, it's our fault. Because with no compassion, no work, and no one to love they turn to someone who will provide them with fulfillment.  It's like innercity kids and gangs, except now we're paying a cost much, much higher than a drug runner who shoots up a corner store.

 

I am not a mind reader but part of me wants to say that it's not having those persons who were radicalized come over covertly that's really scaring us about this.

It's that a perfectly normal young man who was suffering came over and was radicalized.  It's our own fault.  As Americans we are totally responsible for the poverty, social isolation, and cruelty these immigrants face on a daily basis.  Part of this is compassion fatigue.  With so many people illegally coming over, many people don't have the time, energy or patience to deal with immigrants after being twice hit by an unlicensed, uninsured driver twice in in a year.  Or being poor and having the food pantry run out of food, or being inelegible for benefits because those resources are being taken up by those who are not following the rules.  Many, even in their poverty are often the most generous, but so many people are being bleed dry by the needs of others.  Our food pantry doubled in the number of families it was serving.  We don't ask any questions, we just want people not to be hungry.  We run out of things on a regular basis now, because even though the donations have doubled also, we just can't keep up.  Those who have time to stand in line do, but then there's those who are working and make decent money on paper but have debt or health troubles or elderly parents or had addictions or arrests in their past but are working.  They don't have time to stand in line, they arrive late and there's little left for them.  It's sad.

And in the mix of all of the poor citizens and those who are here not legally, we have those we have allowed to come.  They don't speak the language, and unlike those here illegally, don't have strong community support and they have absolutely no family. (Those here without permission of the government often come for family).  They are so very, very isolated and somehow even more hated by the general public.  We also make things unnecessary difficult.  So many are doctors, nurses, talented chefs, engineers, even physicists  and we offer them piece work in factories.  It would seem that we would do everything possible to help them move their credentials to these high-needs areas but it just dosn't happen.  Someone could come over on an HB1 visa and live a comfortable American dream sort of life, but if they came over as a refugee with the same education and experience not be hired because of the refugee stigma.  It's terrible.

And in the end, again, it's our fault. Because with no compassion, no work, and no one to love they turn to someone who will provide them with fulfillment.  It's like innercity kids and gangs, except now we're paying a cost much, much higher than a drug runner who shoots up a corner store.

 

[Guest]

17 hours ago, hotpink said:

 As Americans we are totally responsible for the poverty, social isolation, and cruelty these immigrants face on a daily basis.

We have exactly the same problem as Australians too.

What I have also noticed is that immigrants have either experienced rejection of some kind, or have read about it in the media, and hence are unsure and insecure about approaching us as longer term resident Australians.  It is not, it seems to me, that they are isolating themselves through choice or anything else, other than that they are afraid of the reception they might get from us, which they have already experienced or (and perhaps more commonly) heard about it in media and other outlets.

We are afraid of them (often due to media) and they are afraid of us (often due to media).  Fear compounds.

 

Edited August 21, 2016 by BarbaraTherese

[Guest]

On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 10:23 PM, Maggyie said:

My posting of the above illustration, Josh, is to remind you of what this issue is about. When you (and I) get to the gates of Heaven for our judgment, these children will be waiting for us in the arms of Jesus. At that time Jesus will not ask us "did you keep America 100% safe from Muslim Jihadis?" He will ask what we did for these children and the rest of the poorest and smallest. 

And if he doesn't like our answer, he promised us in Scripture that we will be LOST.

God's ears are full of the cry of the poor. He doesn't hear our hand-wringing and self indulgent article writing about how scared we should be of these refugees. From our fat, luxuriant sofas and armchairs in air conditioned rooms with high speed internet, our concerns (based on fear) are of no interest to him.

Jesus says in Scripture, "Do not be afraid, little flock." The context is so loving and gentle it's easy to miss that this is a COMMAND. the word "safe" does not appear in the Gospel. Pagans are 

Cool I hope all the pro Trump Catholic bloggers and media outlets get the memo because they are doing their best to sway Catholics like me who are unsure to their side. And when I do here the few like Shea echoing what you're saying the best Catholics of all time get their pitchforks and silence him then throw a celebration that the filthy evil noncharitable sinner lost his job.

Edited August 23, 2016 by Guest