Parish Archbishop Calls Allah God Of Death

[Luigi]

On ‎8‎/‎8‎/‎2016 at 4:25 AM, <3 PopeFrancis said:

Allah is not God at all.  Allah is just Death.

Allah is the same God as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. All three religions - Judaism, Catholicism, and Islam, worship the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; thus, all three religions are referred to the Abrahamic religions. Catholicism expanded (or recognized through revelation) that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is actually the triune God (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit), which Judaism and Islam don't recognize. But Catholics do still have, in common with the other two religions, the fact that we worship the God the Father of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

You will recall the story of Abraham and Sarah. Sarah, unable to bear children, encouraged Abraham to have a child with Sarah's servant Hagar as a kind of a substitute child - what we would call today, using the terminology of modern reproductive technology, a surrogate child. Abraham and Hagar did have a child, Ishmael. Eventually, Sarah got jealous of Hagar and her son, and she convinced Abraham to send Hagar & Ishmael away. Abraham did send them into the desert, and left them with some food and water, which was soon gone. Things looked bad for them, but God provided a miracle and they survived. See Genesis chapters 16-21 for the full account.

Mohammed is descended from Ishmael, who believed in the same God as Abraham and Isaac. Mohammed and his followers worship the same God as did Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, whom we Catholics call God the Father.

 

[Guest]

John 8:44)
Ye are of your father, and the lusts of your father ye will do.

He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a [Deceiver], and the father of it.

(John 8:45) And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

This passage is also synonymous to (Qur’an 3:54)
“Allah is the Greatest Deceiver“

 

[LittleWaySoul]

Lol nvm I have bad reading comprehension.  

Edited August 10, 2016 by LittleWaySoul

[<3 PopeFrancis]

I am a musician with a predilection to the gypsy.  I am also a minor in sociology and I've had extensive access to this culture.  Perhaps I like it most because it is such a mix of cultures from around the world.  

Let me tell you a bit about this culture if you are not already familiar.  It is an unwritten culture which starts being written of (and by non-gypsy culture) in the 14th and 15th centuries by the East Europeans (Christians). They have a consistent root language and cultural nuances throughout which traces back to India.  So they are a nomadic tribe anthropologist believed to have come from India.  They pick up aspects of their culture as they 'move on' towards the next adventure in life.

In the hierarchy of the Roma culture, as they call themselves, the most prestigious rank is that of being a musician and making a living out of it (not with a hat - which is a way to reach this rank).  The lowest ranking are the Roms' that make a living out of conning people - the street level cons being fortune-telling, pick-pocketing,  stealing and begging.

They have a pagan approach not only to Christianity but Catholocism.  Their religion has a mix of Christianity and their own philosophies (hmnm   sounds awfully familiar) Muslim, Jewish and any thing in there that sounds good. I've talked to first hand Rom and peoples they have lived among.  The Roma do not traditionally stay settled within an area for more than a few generations sometimes much less than that.  Pope John Paul ll kissed outside the church of La Virgin de Roscio  (they call her Our Lady of the Dew and our brothers and sisters have procession in it's full European splendor for Her.  She approves.) in Spain which is more than good enough for me.  

One thing I have learned in sociology is that each nation has at least one contribution to the world pallette.  Our Roma brothers and sisters have a very strong attitude towards their mate in life.  There is a respect in it that follows the natural order.  These attitudes are the basis for much of their music, which for me cuts right through to the soul of a person.

I will continue to be inspired and influenced by these people and their culture no matter where they get their influence from - Muslim or otherwise.

 

Apparently, I don't know who or what "Allah" is:  however, I know I would not bow down in it's name.  Good or otherwise.  

"Allah is not a God at all; Allah is just Death."

I am sure the victims and their loved ones do not split hairs on exactly who did it.  

Whatever it is I will not worship; but I will love the people especially my Muslim friends.

As far as taqiya goes, the Lord forgave the 'good' thief on the cross.  Forgiving means there is sin to eradicate Thief obviously means stealing - one of the Ten Commandments .

If a "Christian"  lies, he/she is breaking a Commandment - God's Law.  If they are lucky, they will receive the grace of God's Mercy in Confession and say "Today you will be with me in paradise." 

As a Christian, there is no other interpretations needed .  For me anyway.

[LittleWaySoul]

@<3 PopeFrancis But don't you understand?

Middle Eastern Catholics (like Chaldean Catholics, etc) worship Allah.

Italians worship Dio.

The Spanish worship Dios.

The French worship Dieu.

The Germans worship Gott.

English worship God. 

Your opposition to worshipping the Muslim deity is one thing, but to say point-blank that "Allah is death" is like an Italian person saying, "God è la morte" or a French person saying, "Gott, c'est la mort."

If someone here were a Catholic whose native language was Arabic, this is how they would read "Allah is death": "God is death." 

It is a linguistic distinction but I stand firm in maintaining that it's an extremely important one, especially now.

I would and do worship Allah. Every day. Because Allah is a word for God just like all the other examples mentioned above. 

Reading this might be helpful. Especially the sections under "Usage" and "Christianity":

"The Christian Arabs of today have no other word for "God" than "Allah"."

"Arab Christians, for example, use the terms Allāh al-ab (الله الأب) for God the Father, Allāh al-ibn (الله الابن) for God the Son, and Allāh al-rūḥ al-quds (الله الروح القدس) for God the Holy Spirit."

At the very least, out of respect for our Arab Christian brothers and sisters who have been persecuted and martyred for the sake of (our) Allah, it is important to recognize this distinction. 

[<3 PopeFrancis]

This is one of my fav songs much to my Mother's dismay - since it has the name Allah.  I invite you in the Name of Jesus to enjoy:  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB764Q9n9cU

 

Anymore comments towards my profile will make me think I'm being made out to be a Muslim hater. Therefore that is the last post I am addressing on the subject unless this is a Tribunal which in that case the may be handled through the proper channels.  Thank you.  In case you have trouble understanding what I'm saying is I've had enough.

 

 

So please forgive me if I do not respond to this topic again.

 

[LittleWaySoul]

8 hours ago, <3 PopeFrancis said:

This is one of my fav songs much to my Mother's dismay - since it has the name Allah.  I invite you in the Name of Jesus to enjoy:  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB764Q9n9cU

Anymore comments towards my profile will make me think I'm being made out to be a Muslim hater. Therefore that is the last post I am addressing on the subject unless this is a Tribunal which in that case the may be handled through the proper channels.  Thank you.  In case you have trouble understanding what I'm saying is I've had enough.

So please forgive me if I do not respond to this topic again.

I just wanted to say that I apologize if I misunderstood you and I hope you have a great day!  

[Guest]

Father Josiah Trenham mentioned “intimidation” to the parishioners of St. Andrew Orthodox Church, and he was quite right: Islamic supremacists and jihadis routinely traffic in intimidation. That’s based on a Qur’anic command: “And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may strike terror in the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know, whom Allah knows” (Qur’an 8:60).

When they practice this intimidation, they generally find Westerners — especially Christian leaders — unwilling and unable to do anything in response but submit to it: the Christians are anxious to show themselves to be charitable and loving to the Muslims, without realizing that as far as the Muslims are concerned, this equates to surrender. Hence the many Christian leaders who counseled that in the face of the jihad murder of cartoonists of Muhammad, the charitable thing for Christians to do would be to accept the Sharia blasphemy restrictions on speech, at least regarding criticism of Muhammad.

This is not to say that Christians shouldn’t be charitable and loving, but sometimes the most charitable thing to do is to refuse to allow the intimidator a victory for his intimidation. Giving in to intimidation only encourages more of it. Christians in the U.S. need to have a public discussion of this point, since one thing is certain: there are going to be many, many more incidents like this one at St. Andrew Orthodox Church.

 

As Father Josiah Trenham prepared to read the Gospel, several parishioners discreetly scooped up their babies, retreated up the aisles of St. Andrew Orthodox Church and out into the spring air, so as not to allow the crying of little ones to disturb the divine liturgy.

The time-honored tradition was shattered when a car passed by the Riverside, Calif., church, slowing down as the front passenger leaned out of his window and bellowed menacingly through a bullhorn, according to witnesses.

“Allahu Akbar!” the unidentified man repeated several times as the unnerved parents drew their infants close and exchanged worried glances.

Witnesses were able to give Riverside police a description of the green Honda Civic, but not of the three occupants. Some told police they believed one or more of the men may have been taking photographs, according to Officer Ryan Railsback. Although Trenham insisted multiple congregants heard the Arabic phrase, Railsback noted no mention of it was in the police report.

In omitting this, was the author of the police report running some politically correct interference for area Muslims?

Whatever the case, no law was broken – even if an unmistakable message was sent and received.

“Be calm and to keep a special vigilance over the property and our children while we are at church,” Trenham wrote in an email to parishioners in which he recounted the disturbing event. “Pray that these provocative young men might repent of their intimidation and be saved.”

Trenham told FoxNews.com last week the situation remains “tense and tenuous,” and said the church now has security officers on hand for all regular services.

“It is a deep sorrow to live this way in the ‘new America,’” he said.

The incident took place on April 12, some four months after a terror attack left 14 dead in nearby San Bernardino, and just over three months before a French priest was killed by ISIS-linked jihadists in his church. The events, whether far or near, underscore a grim new reality for pastors such as Trenham: Instead of offering sanctuary from evil, churches could in fact be attractive targets for terror….

In February, Khial Abu-Rayyan, 21, of Dearborn Heights, Mich., was arrested after he told an undercover FBI agent he was preparing to “shoot up” a major church near his home on behalf of ISIS. A month earlier, the Rev. Roger Spradlin of Valley Baptist Church – one of the biggest congregations in Bakersfield, Calif. – told attendees that they had received a threat written in Arabic.

“Undercover officers were then placed during worship services,” Valley Baptist spokesman Dave Kalahar said. “The FBI continues to investigate along with the local task force.”

Last September, an Islamic man clad in combat gear was charged with making a terrorist threat after entering Corinth Missionary Baptist Church, in Bullard, Tex., and claiming that God had instructed him to kill Christians and “other infidels.” A year earlier, police were called to Saint Bartholomew’s Catholic Church in Columbus, Ind., after the house of worship was vandalized with the word “Infidels!” along with a Koranic verse sanctioning death for nonbelievers. Similar graffiti was found that same night at nearby Lakeview Church of Christ and East Columbus Christian Church.

St. Bartholomew Pastor Clem Davis said he doesn’t know if the threat was legitimate, but said little can be done to harden a target whose mission is to welcome all.

“I don’t know that there is any real protection against the ‘lone wolf’ mentality, not without infringing on everybody’s freedoms,” Davis said. “We don’t have metal detectors, people go in and out. Churches are family-orientated, public, tax-supported spaces; so they may appeal to some as a target.”

Synagogues have faced increasing threats in recent years, too. Earlier this year, the FBI disrupted a plot by a Muslim convert to blow up the Aventura Turnberry Jewish Center, in Aventura, Fla. A 2014 audit by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) found that anti-Semitic incidents rose 21 percent across the country that year.

Eastern Orthodox Christians, who in many cases suffered persecution at the hands of radical Muslims in their Middle Eastern homelands, believe they may be singled out because of their heritage. Mass at St. Andrew typically attracts up to 400 worshippers with roots in Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Russia and Greece.

“We have guards now; we never used to have guards,” said St. Andrew attendee Solomon Saddi, a Syrian-American Christian. “They keep an eye on everyone and talk to the faces that aren’t familiar,” he continued, referring to the aftermath of the April incident. “It is a very dangerous time for us even in America.”…

[<3 PopeFrancis]

17 hours ago, LittleWaySoul said:

I just wanted to say that I apologize if I misunderstood you and I hope you have a great day!  

I also apologize for misunderstandings LittleWay to you and all.  All good.