xSilverPhinx Posted June 14, 2016 Author Share Posted June 14, 2016 Well that we can agree on. (Except for the last part, I don't believe in Allah or Satan either.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 They're one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Veganism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSilverPhinx Posted June 14, 2016 Author Share Posted June 14, 2016 6 minutes ago, Credo in Deum said: Veganism. Poor vegans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I would say homosexual. Because you can pray for an atheist to stop being an atheist or work with them in it, and it's possible they will believe. With homosexuality, it's a lifetime cross. It's not sinful to be gay but I wouldn't want my child to have to endure what gay people have to go through. I guess from a theological perspective I'm all wrong, since an atheist can't have the sacraments and a gay person can. I should want my child to have the sacraments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, xSilverPhinx said: Would you have preferred "you Catholics"? How is wanting to physically harm themselves different from spiritually harm themselves in your perspective? Wouldn't embracing atheism or having any views that diverge from the official doctrine be enough to cause that kind of self harm? A more polite way of addressing the question would be something like "I am curious, what would Catholics here think if their child revealed that they where gay or an atheist? Would it cause you to be afraid and if so which would be the greatest fear?" Physical harm would be a more imminent threat. Spiritual harm while a great danger can possibly be overcome with love, outreach, and discussion. Edited June 14, 2016 by KnightofChrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSilverPhinx Posted June 14, 2016 Author Share Posted June 14, 2016 25 minutes ago, KnightofChrist said: A more polite way of addressing the question would be something like "I am curious, what would Catholics here think if their child revealed that they where gay or an atheist? Would it cause you to be afraid and if so which would be the greatest fear?" I apologise, saying "you people" seemed ok in Portuguese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoamI Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Not likely that I will ever have children, but if I did, I hope that my children would trust me enough that they would be willing to come to me with anything. I have friends who are gay or atheists (or both), and while their sexuality and beliefs are part of them, it is not the whole of who they are. First and foremost, they are human beings, and as such I am called to live them. Then, they are my friends, for whatever reasons, we have ended up close to each other. I am honest about my beliefs, and we have great conversations-even debates. I desire their good. Do I wish they were Catholic, or not living a homosexuality lifestyle? Yes. Do I love them where they are? Yes. I hope that I would react in a similar way to my children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelofJesus Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 The fact that your child came to you to talk about this is in itself a victory. A discussion has been opened. It's now up to you to either chastise and push them away or welcome them with love, humility and continued discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomaly Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) 20 hours ago, xSilverPhinx said: I'm curious to know which is worse to you folks, being an atheist or a homosexual? If your child came to you and said, "Dad, mom, we need to talk", what would be your worst fear in this context? It's hard to know until it happens. Based on personal experience as a parent and close friend, whatever your opinion may be beforehand, it probably will change afterwards. Edited June 15, 2016 by Anomaly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilleDeStFrancois Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) Not sure if this has already been said, but... I guess I would prefer my child claim to be atheist because I believe that atheists can be converted, but I really think that homosexuals can never change the way they feel, just respond appropriately to sin, like all us sinners do. Edited June 15, 2016 by FilleDeStFrancois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 It's so sad to me that so many would rather see their children without faith in Jesus than to be attracted to persons of the same sex. No matter how you spin it to justify the answer, the reality is the same: you're saying you'd rather your child come to the conclusion that Jesus is not real than to suffer with Jesus, as you would hope. To believe that your child would not suffer as an atheist is silly, if you're truly Catholic. If truly Catholic, would not you want anything for your child to know God, the same way he or she is already known by the Lord? I would absolutely prefer my child be gay than without faith. I guess I should say, though, that I don't see homosexuality as anything near the cross of no faith. My child coming to me as gay would not scare me. I might be sad for a moment -- because I know what it means to come to that conclusion -- but I would not be afraid, and I would not be devastated the way I might if my child revealed to me that he or she did not have faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 On 6/14/2016 at 3:03 PM, little2add said: both lifestyles are okay and acceptable, Can you clarify this? It goes against Church teaching, so, since your label says "Catholic", I'm going to have to give you a Phishy tag if this is what you are promoting. 20 hours ago, franciscanheart said: I guess I should say, though, that I don't see homosexuality as anything near the cross of no faith. My child coming to me as gay would not scare me. I might be sad for a moment -- because I know what it means to come to that conclusion -- but I would not be afraid, and I would not be devastated the way I might if my child revealed to me that he or she did not have faith. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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little2add Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) 59 minutes ago, dUSt said: Can you clarify this? It goes against Church teaching, so, since your label says "Catholic", I'm going to have to give you a Phishy tag if this is what you are promoting. This. Doesn't the Catholic Church teach us to respect and love the atheist and/or homosexual person the same as it does the heterosexual. Catholicism teaches that homosexual people must be treated with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every act or thought of hatred, violence, or persecution toward the homosexual is condemned. I do not condone sexual activity outside of marriage as it is sinful and immoral. Masturbation, fornication, adultery, pornography, and artificial contraception are all sins in the eyes of the Catholic Church. I believe that marriage is the permanent, faithful, and God-willing fruitful union of a man and woman who have entered the covenant relationship of husband and wife. The sacrament of Matrimony is a sacred bond that imitates the love between Christ and his bride, the Church. The Church believes that because God instituted marriage, neither the Church nor the secular state (civil government) has the authority to redefine or substantially change the nature of marriage. My brother is gay and he's one of the best people I've ever known, he is also an atheist. He's not heavy, he's my brother and I will not condemn him https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oT57tjz9py8 HOLLIES "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother" (B. Scott and B. Russell) The road is long With many a winding turn That leads us to who knows where Who knows when But I'm strong Strong enough to carry him He ain't heavy, he's my brother So on we go His welfare is of my concern No burden is he to bear We'll get there For I know He would not encumber me He ain't heavy, he's my brother If I'm laden at all I'm laden with sadness That everyone's heart Isn't filled with the gladness Of love for one another It's a long, long road From which there is no return While we're on the way to there Why not share And the load Doesn't weigh me down at all He ain't heavy, he's my brother He's my brother He ain't heavy, he's my brother... Edited June 17, 2016 by little2add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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