PhuturePriest Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) I'd post a link, but at this point I don't see how anyone wouldn't know what happened in the early hours of this morning. This shooting was bad enough, but hearing the personal accounts is even worse. My heart really breaks for all the victims and their loved ones. I have a soft spot in my heart for the LGBT community, and that this happened specifically because of hatred towards these people is simply beyond my ability to understand. Despite any sin, these are precious children in the eyes of the Father, and they deserve nothing less than our wholehearted love and understanding. I've seen disgusting comments from several Catholics who have stated very bigoted things against the victims, and this is incredibly disappointing to me, as I would have hoped a Catholic rooted in the Faith would know better. On a related note, the hospital working on the wounded is in dire need of blood, and I've been told it is possible to donate blood and have it sent there if you live out-of-State. If anyone knows specifically how to do this, I would really appreciate it. Hearing about these tragedies and praying for victims sometimes feels insufficient, and I'd love to help in a practical way if possible. I'll probably pass out because my body smells of elderberries at handling change, but that's something I'm willing to offer up. Edited June 13, 2016 by PhuturePriest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragon Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Thank you for this post. Your comments on offering blood are very moving. I feel very hurt by the reaction of some Catholics to this crime, and it is nice to know that there are orthodox Catholics out there who love their gay brothers and sisters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbTherese Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Prayer for all victims, direct and indirect and for the USA and gun laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NadaTeTurbe Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 PP, call your blood center and ask them questions. They'll be more than happy to tell you how to help. http://www.cityoforlando.net/blog/victims/ : To pray for the victims by name. Prayers for the victims, the wounded, the family and the police. I'm horrified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I'm so sorry for the victims. It's terrifying that they could be targeted!!! I have to admit I'm also concerned for my Muslim neighbors. Liberals have been an important group saying "not all Muslims are terrorists" I'm afraid that between a sexual minority and a religious minority, many will choose to stop supporting Muslims. Especially in an American context where gay people are on TV but Muslims only appear when Jack Bauer is torturing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 what if the shooter turned out to be a gay muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CatherineM Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 There's always a need for blood in the summer. Regulars go on vacation and don't give. People play with chainsaws and jet skis so need goes up. This will have drawn down regional supplies across the continent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 3 hours ago, vee said: what if the shooter turned out to be a gay muslim. That couldn't happen. Homosexuality is synonymous with atheism. Didn't you get the memo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) Prayers Edited June 13, 2016 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 Let's try and avoid politicizing this tragedy, please. I could easily go and talk about gun control, but this thread isn't for stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo in Deum Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Josh said: Not entirely true. The rainbow in the bible has 7 colors, the LGBTQ has 6. Edited June 13, 2016 by Credo in Deum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) This was yet another act of war by an enemy agent for ISIS in a Western nation. Not a criminal act, but an act of war by a declared enemy. The act of homosexuality is a grave sin but the fallen deserve our sorrow and mourning. Whatever Josh's point may be comes off as asinine, whatever it is it seems highly inappropriate at this time. Any potential discussion over gun control would also be asinine because this was an act of war and in France ISIS proved gun control will not stop their acts of wars. Edited June 13, 2016 by KnightofChrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 36 minutes ago, KnightofChrist said: This was yet another act of war by an enemy agent for ISIS in a Western nation. Not a criminal act, but an act of war by a declared enemy. The act of homosexuality is a grave sin but the fallen deserve our sorrow and mourning. Is there any evidence indicating that the shooter had any tangible connection with ISIS prior to the shooting? I would think that one would actually need to be a member of ISIS in order to commit an act of war on it's behalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I'm not proud of the first thoughts I had upon waking to hear this news. My knee jerk response was to consider the political ramifications of this. I thought, now LGBT advocates will have a concrete and pretty convincing argument to justify their victim-complex. People against gay marriage and the like, Christians in particular, will be blamed for this. We will become more stigmatized and reviled by popular opinion. Again, not proud. In other words, I was thinking pretty selfishly. I had to take a minute to imagine the actual lives of the individuals. Their last moments. How some of them may have been far away from God, how perhaps many of them were trying to find him, and how close they may have been. How terrified they must have been. It's hard to empathize, at first at least, with people who are not like you. I remember hearing, and this may not be true, that at the time of the massacre at the Bataclan the Eagles of Death Metal were playing a song called "Kiss the Devil." Who knows, but there is a song they sing by that title. It stirs up conflicting feelings within me. I've been to a few rock concerts with er, questionable bands, but the whole nightclub scene stands as a symbol of debauchery, licentiousness, and everything against Christian morality. Does that mean people deserve to get brutally gunned-down? Of course not. Hell, I myself have been at clubs on the rare occasion (without partaking in the more seedy elements of the club scene). But it's still a stark reminder. Just going out and "having a good time." We as a culture are pretty good at that, maybe too good. I don't think we take enough time to seriously reflect on our mortality. It's a scary thing. It's also hard because stuff happens like this, all the time it seems. And when it's not close to you it's just another sad news story. I only start to get feelings when I see first hand accounts, like Eddie Justice's frantic text messages to his mother moments before he was slain. That was hard to read. It's also hard to consider, in an increasingly polarized society where sentiment rules the day and nuance is not often employed, that people like me (Christians) are the ones who have created the environment where things like this are possible. Maybe that's just because I'm prone to feeling guilty. I usually keep my opinions to myself anyway, except on the interwebs. Anyhow, I offer my sincere prayers for the victims and their families. May God embrace them. Lord knows I've sinned greatly against Him, but He reached out to me in my darkest hours. I can only hope He did the same for the victims of that tragic night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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