franciscanheart Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Anomaly said: Bullying is often taught. Sweetie pie is not weird to a 4 year old unless they are taught it is. I wouldn't worry so much about giving the wrong message about gender role. Is worry about giving the wrong message about kindness. Sweetie pie does not mean "weird girly name from weird girly dad". Word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 19 hours ago, franciscanheart said: Don't tell phatmass. Admit something like that and you'll start hearing about how feminine you are. [insert eye roll here] Don't mistake what I'm trying to say. I'm all for femininity. I grew a beard to offset my femininity. My femininity is impressive. But, my masculinity has already been secured--and also reinforced by my beard. I just think it's important for a man to firmly establish his masculinity first, that's all. 3 hours ago, Anomaly said: Sweetie pie does not mean "weird girly name from weird girly dad". But really... doesn't it? C'mon. 8 hours ago, franciscanheart said: I'd like to think I could teach my children that bullying isn't kind. I'd like to think I could teach them that bullies are often ignorant or scared or hurting or some combination of those things. I would like to think I could show my child that being who you are is okay, and that being kind is far more effortless than being a jerk. Or, you could bully your kid at a young age so they learn how to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 21 hours ago, Nihil Obstat said: Have you seen his family? Dayum. Beautiful wife, beautiful children. From the outside at least they certainly look like a family to emulate. So sad, his wife just lost their 5th child, a boy, at 20 weeks :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomaly Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 1 hour ago, dUSt said: Don't mistake what I'm trying to say. I'm all for femininity. I grew a beard to offset my femininity. My femininity is impressive. But, my masculinity has already been secured--and also reinforced by my beard. I just think it's important for a man to firmly establish his masculinity first, that's all. But really... doesn't it? C'mon. Or, you could bully your kid at a young age so they learn how to deal with it. I feel sorry for you that you fear parts of who you are that you have to grow a beard to compensate and hide behind. No, sweetie pie for four year olds isn't weird or damaging to gender identity unless adults do and teach the damage. I feel sorry for you, your kids, and others you damage unwittingly. Why close with the sarcasm? It doesn't really blunt where you're so wrong. Just because your dad called you sweetie, doesn't mean you have to be gay. There used to be a lot of debate whether you're born gay or made gay. No point in unnecessarily telling someone they were born or made gay because they were called sweetie, didn't play with trucks, or played girls softball. Being a man or woman is dependent on much more than following narrow cultural gender stereotypes. Why change general behavioral tendencies and personal preferences into harmful, hate tainted, and destructive stereotypes? Measures you either meet or fail? You started a thread about the LGBT media prowess. Much of it is backlash because we understand they're real humans too and we found out they all weren't monsters or super weird. There are fewer of them and not as identifiable as people of a different color or race, so our institutionalized meanness wasn't as strong or ingrained. Now society overcompensates and tells boys who like to cook they're gay, but that's okay. Girls who play football are gay, but that's okay. Kids who don't fit some narrowminded, backwoods, ignorant stereotypes of gender behavior are weird, transgender, gender fluid, gender transitional, but that's okay. Just be homosexual, bisexual, hypersexual, it's all good. DNA has determined who you are, it's pointless to struggle and work on being who you want to be. Be who society tells you to be, sweetie pie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, Anomaly said: Be who society tells you to be, sweetie pie. I guess I agree with most of what you said, but this statement sums up the part where you are wrong. We should be who God wants us to be, not society. Society, for the most part, is lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomaly Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Just now, dUSt said: I guess I agree with most of what you said, but this statement sums up the part where you are wrong. We should be who God wants us to be, not society. Society, for the most part, is lost. We need sarcasm brackets. I was being sarcastic to illustrate the point of some unpleasant stereotypes that we bolster. We are society. Society, as always, could be better. That's why we discuss and fuss, else we're just singing on the Titanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 I blame society and magnets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomaly Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 1 minute ago, dUSt said: I blame society and magnets. I don't blame God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Maggyie said: So sad, his wife just lost their 5th child, a boy, at 20 weeks :'( Yes, I saw that the other day. Very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnatiusofLoyola Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I think this kid is very lucky that his father only calls him "Sweetie Pie." My nickname in young childhood was "Neecy Poo Poo." Thankfully, my parents only used this nickname at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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