tinytherese Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 On September 10, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Saintclare2009 said: Jesus said in our catholic bibles that divorce shouldnt be except of course if one of the spouses commits adultery. The word "adultery" is not what Jesus said, although many Bible translations use this word. If Jesus intended to say adultery, he would have used the word moicheia, meaning "adultery," but instead he used the word porneia, meaning illicit or invalid. https://www.catholic.com/qa/if-jesus-made-an-exception-for-divorce-in-cases-of-adultery-why-doesnt-the-church Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 isn't the act of adultery in marriage illicit or invalid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) adultery is or was as repugnant in the time of Christ as it is today Edited September 19, 2017 by little2add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytherese Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 On September 19, 2017 at 4:51 AM, little2add said: isn't the act of adultery in marriage illicit or invalid? It's a sin, so it's immoral. Specifically a mortal sin. It doesn't automatically invalidate a marriage though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polskieserce Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share Posted October 7, 2017 On 8/26/2017 at 10:58 PM, little2add said: if you consider holy matrimony to be business contract , your doing it wrong! if two catholics marry they become one, in theory. selflessly devoted to one another It's a contract in the sense that there are 2 human parties that must both be committed to it in order for it to work. But in our fallen world, it oftentimes doesn't work out that way. How are you supposed to protect yourself legally and financially, if not with a prenup, in case your spouse decides that they don't want to be married to you anymore? What about if your spouse is cheating on you or spending money like crazy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Why would you marry someone you don’t trust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polskieserce Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 18 hours ago, little2add said: Why would you marry someone you don’t trust? Why would a passenger get into a car and wear a seatbelt if he doesn't trust the driver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 4 hours ago, polskieserce said: Why would a passenger get into a car and wear a seatbelt if he doesn't trust the driver? because the passenger signed a prenup, obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polskieserce Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 19 hours ago, little2add said: because the passenger signed a prenup, obvious Do you actually have a valid response to my question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 what valid question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polskieserce Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 On 10/9/2017 at 4:45 PM, little2add said: what valid question? The question of how to protect yourself financially if the other person decides they don't want to do it anymore. There are many horror stories you will hear about how people lost almost everything they had during a divorce. This is not a minor issue that the Church can keep brushing off to the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 9 hours ago, polskieserce said: how people lost almost everything they had during a divorce I would be more concerned about loosing the love of your spouse. Money is not everything don't put money before love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polskieserce Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 8 hours ago, little2add said: I would be more concerned about loosing the love of your spouse. Money is not everything don't put money before love You still aren't answering my question. How are people supposed to protect themselves financially if the marriage goes south? HALF of all marriages end in divorce. Do you really think half of the population thought their marriage would end in divorce? This is exactly the type of ignorant, foolish, delusional, "it will never happen to me" kind of thinking that plagues the human race and the Catholic Church. As far as I can see, prenups are one of the few ways you can somewhat protect yourself legally/financially from a nasty divorce. Love matters a lot, but so does money. Your sentiment that we should abandon all financial and legal considerations when love is involved is foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, polskieserce said: Your sentiment that we should abandon all financial and legal considerations when love is involved is foolish. call me a fool, then 1 hour ago, polskieserce said: You still aren't answering my question. your question is foolish. Marriage is a selfless agreement, if you can not abandon you own needs for the sake of your partner's well being then the union is doomed to fail. Edited October 11, 2017 by little2add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 marriage is not a 50-50 agreement, it is a 100-100 agreement (1+1=1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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