IcePrincessKRS Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 You can still add stuff to what has been said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onegurlarmy1120 Posted June 24, 2004 Author Share Posted June 24, 2004 [quote]Wow... that was relatively fast and painless. [/quote] hahah don't worry...there will be more oh!! i have a new question are you not supposed to talk to the priest when he gives you Communion or at any time during the Mass (unless it's at the end b/c i remember everyone shakes hands :] ) because i tried that and iono maybe he wasn't listening or something or is that considered rude? wow that was a crazy run-on thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archbishop 10-K Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 [quote name='onegurlarmy1120' date='Jun 24 2004, 12:13 AM'] hahah don't worry...there will be more oh!! i have a new question are you not supposed to talk to the priest when he gives you Communion or at any time during the Mass (unless it's at the end b/c i remember everyone shakes hands :] ) because i tried that and iono maybe he wasn't listening or something or is that considered rude? wow that was a crazy run-on thanks [/quote] Talking to the priest at any time during Mass can be compared to being a spectator in a courtroom and talking to the judge during a session. During the Mass, the priest pretty much takes on an alternate personality. He acts in persona Christi, or in the person of Christ. That is to say, the priest fulfills his role as a living sacrifice (wearing all-black, being celibate, dedicated to the Church 24/7) and performs a sacrifice, during the Consecration of the Eucharist. The Mass is intended to be pretty solemn. However, you can always talk to the priest before and after Mass, or call him up anytime throughout the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onegurlarmy1120 Posted June 24, 2004 Author Share Posted June 24, 2004 ok so it's not recommended...got it. [quote]performs a sacrifice, during the Consecration of the Eucharist.[/quote] what does that mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 wait, wait, wait. much love to you and inspired by that love i may have the need to reprimend you. correct me if i've misinterpreted. 1. you are not a practicing Catholic (you are a Buddhist) 2. you have attended mass 3. you went up to communion and tried to talk to the priest My main concern on #3 is: did you receive communion? If you did, and I am correct on numbers 1 and 2, i must ask you not to do so again. We believe that is Jesus Christ come down to strengthen those who are sacramentally fully united to the Church He founded. reception of the Eucharist by anyone who is not Catholic would be considered by us describable by the word: "sacrilidge" out of respect to our beliefs, if you are not Catholic please do not receive the Eucharist. it is highly offensive to Catholics. Even CATHOLICS must examine their conscience thouroughly before receiving the Eucharist, and if they are in a state of mortal sin they may not even receive even if they are Catholic. under no circumstances may one who does not believe in the Catholic Church receive the Eucharist. if you have done so, don't worry: when you didn't know we don't consider you to be accountable for that sin (and yes, that would be considered a sin by Catholic belief). However, now that you know, if you were to continue to do it you would be considered accountable for that sin. Please respect our beliefs. If i have misinterpreted you in any way, I humbly apologize. pAx CHRISTI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onegurlarmy1120 Posted June 24, 2004 Author Share Posted June 24, 2004 no..i didn't receive communion (i went up and put my arms across my chest). i was there solely for a learning experience however i'm not entirely sure what you mean by "receiving the Eucharist" but i'm pretty sure i didn't do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 by "receiving the Eucharist" we mean eating the bread and/or drinking the wine--both of which, in substance, are the body and blood of Jesus Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onegurlarmy1120 Posted June 24, 2004 Author Share Posted June 24, 2004 thanks for clearing that up yeah i didn't do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 ok good I'd never go around doing something to your Buddha statue, so it seems a fair trade-off that you don't receive our Lord pAx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archbishop 10-K Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 [quote name='onegurlarmy1120' date='Jun 24 2004, 12:45 AM'] what does that mean? [/quote] When the priest transforms the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Huether Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 [quote name='onegurlarmy1120' date='Jun 24 2004, 12:25 AM'] thanks for clearing that up yeah i didn't do that [/quote] I am so amaized at your peace and openness and coolness. What Archbishop 10-K meant by "performs a sacrifice, during the Consecration of the Eucharist." is this. We believe that when the Priest says, "This is my Body... This is my Blood" (you may remember this - while he holds up the bread and wine), the bread and wine, although retaining their accidents (their physical features) become, in substance, the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ. Therefore, since the Priest re-presents the same Jesus Christ who was crucified, died, and resurrected, it is truly a sacrifice. It's a lot to think about. But don't struggle too much with these theological "details". They are the summit of our faith, indeed. I don't want to at all downplay their importance. But I would get the major stumbling blocks out of the way before you start to chip at the iceburg. May I ask: How familiar are you with the Christian faith? Actually, how familiar with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, are you? I suppose it would be good to know a little more about where you are at in your faith journey. Seriously. Some of the details may turn you off before you even get your feet wet. You may want to learn more about our God and some of the more general things... I don't know... maybe I'm just blabbering. Anywho. Thanks for coming to this Phorum! Stick around and welcome to the Phamily! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Huether Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Jun 24 2004, 12:33 AM'] ok good I'd never go around doing something to your Buddha statue, so it seems a fair trade-off that you don't receive our Lord pAx [/quote] Al, No offense, but reading this post. If I was a Buddhist, I would be pretty offended. It's kinda harsh. I mean, you could have fluffed it up a bit and got the same intent accross. We don't want to send away any peeps who want to learn. I know you didn't mean to... But if I were to not know you and read that I might take it as... "I'm not messing with your religion so don't mess with ours." Of course onegurlarmy1120 can recieve our Lord. She can pray to our Lord and she can ask Him into her heart. Our Lord wishes people to come to Him. But she would only need to know that she cannot recieve (eat and drink) Him in the Eucharist, a jesture which is reserved for those who are expressing Communion with the Church through Christ. I hope that you can see this... Here's a good way of saying it. "ok good That was very nice of you to consider the sacredness of our belief in the Presence of Christ in the Eucharist." Anyway. I know it wasn't your intent. I don't even know how onegurlarmy1120 took it. But it was just my own observation... Maybe I'm the one with issues. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archbishop 10-K Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Allow me to show the effect in illustration. [img]http://uvoc.org/Sacrifice_of_the_Mass.jpg[/img] This is from the Tridentine (Traditional Latin) rite, one where the priest faces the altar instead of the congregation. But, the effect is the same regardless of which direction the priest is facing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Huether Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 [quote name='Archbishop 10-K' date='Jun 24 2004, 09:56 AM'] Allow me to show the effect in illustration. [img]http://uvoc.org/Sacrifice_of_the_Mass.jpg[/img] This is from the Tridentine (Traditional Latin) rite, one where the priest faces the altar instead of the congregation. But, the effect is the same regardless of which direction the priest is facing. [/quote] Ahhh! I love that picture. Thanks for posting it. A picture is truly worth 1000 words (at least). God bless you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 ppl get offended too easily i was just mentioning that for her to receive the eucharist would be to us as if i smashed one of her statues or something. if someone gets offended by that simple comment, i'm sorry, but it's not a bad analogy in my opinion. pAx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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