Pope Francis vs Trump

[Ice_nine]

meh

[bardegaulois]

On 2/20/2016, 4:57:16, PhuturePriest said:

Um, most of the people coming here illegally would *rather* do so legally. They often do so because they 1) do not have the money to pay for the fees, 2) do not have the time for the long waiting period out of fear for their lives or well-being, or 3) both. We have an incredibly broken legal system. Those who want to come here legally often have to wait years, and many people from central and south America trying to come here do not have years to wait. 

It's not these peoples' fault that they have to look out for their family's well-being and, in a way, feel no choice but to come here illegally. It is our fault that we are so partisan that we cannot make the simplest attempts at improving the immigration system. None of this is to say that there aren't those who come here illegally just so they can exploit the system. But there is no data I am aware of suggesting this is the majority.

We need to stop pointing fingers and start doing something. Fixing immigration laws will largely fix the immigration issue. Make revisions, not walls. 

The sort of rubbish that one might hear at a Democratic Party meeting holds no water with me. How about some evidence to back your bold assertions here up?

[Ice_nine]

It's hard to get evidence and statistics on people who are undocumented. Jus' sayin'.

The good people who sneak over here and keep their heads down, work, stay out of trouble etc aren't really adding to the data pool but I'm sure there are plenty of them in your own neighborhood.

[4588686]

6 hours ago, bardegaulois said:

The sort of rubbish that one might hear at a Democratic Party meeting holds no water with me. How about some evidence to back your bold assertions here up?

My neighbor, who is undocumented, told me the very same things, roughly