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Don't trust everything from the Dallas Morning News. Though not that bad (excellent comics section!), they do tend somewhat towards the liberal side...

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Maybe this isnt the time or thread to bring this up, but HBO plans on releasing on June 28th, an 'American Undercover' series on Celebacy and the Catholic Church. Has anyone heard about this?

I for one am very interested. I know celebacy is a choice. In the sense that if one chooses to become a priest then one also chooses celebacy. There are, of course, other options to serve the church if celebacy is not an 'option' for some. But what struck me as odd, is in some of the clips, it seemed that the priests were expressing that it was a forced choice. And that bothered me. Only because they seemed to misrepresent the fact, just as so many others have.

I realize that this may have nothing to do with this thread, and I know we have discussed the issue of celebacy before, but I really wanted to inform everyone about this upcoming 'report' on HBO.

It bothers me because I think it may be misrepresenting the truth.
Please watch for it.

Peace.

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[quote name='Winchester' date='Jun 18 2004, 06:27 PM'] Lumberjack, what's your avatar? Looks like one of our dead saints under glass. [/quote]
Yeah, what is it? :blink:

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cmotherofpirl

True PedroX.

Right now our diocese is being sued again be people claiming to have been molested 40 years ago by priests dead 30 years ago.
So I have a built in bias against such stuiff, and got disgusted and didn't read the entire article.

Bishop Sheen said if we didn't cleaning up the Church, the Holy Spirit would.
He was a definite prophet.

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daugher-of-Mary

[quote]Kindly remember accused does NOT mean guilty. [/quote]

Amen, amen! Three priests from my diocese were accused of scandal last year by a man who was mentally disabled. They were all acquitted, but went through a year of hell...weren't allowed to celebrate public Mass, etc. Even now, they don't have it easy. Gossip does A LOT of harm even for these poor men who were found not guilty. :(

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the lumberjack

[quote name='Donna' date='Jun 19 2004, 03:42 AM'] Don Bosco...help us.

Could he mean this?

[url="http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/spe/2004/runawaypriests/"]http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/spe/2004/runawaypriests/[/url] [/quote]
yup Donna, thats what I was making reference to....

and what everyone here had to say about it, or what you thought of it.

I'm not critiquing the majesterium or anything, just wondering what the Catholic Church has to say about this.



OH, AND BY THE WAY, I'M GETTING A TSHIRT WITH THAT COOL RED WRITING ABOVE MY TITLE.

;)

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the lumberjack

[url="http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/religion/stories/062104dnprovasquez.202f8.html"]more news from dallas[/url]

any comments from anyone?

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Brother Adam

Care to comment. I think my chances are better inside the Church then outside.

liberal media. Twisting and contorting everything.

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Archbishop 10-K

[quote]OH, AND BY THE WAY, I'M GETTING A TSHIRT WITH THAT COOL RED WRITING ABOVE MY TITLE.[/quote]

Where I live, the people who see you on the street would probably be like "Yeah, so?" (hardly any Catholics around)

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I cant see any of those posts, because they want me to sign up for it.
I get a page asking for all kinds of info. Sorry. Wont do it.

Lumber,
You never answered the question in reference to your avatar.
Spill it.

Peace :peace:

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MartinLuther

Justice will not be denied - thanks to the efforts of the Dallas journalists

[url="http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2004/s1140853.htm"]http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2004/s1140853.htm[/url]

Please pray for the victims of these cases and all similar cases that they may experience complete healing.

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CatholicAndFanatical

I heard something about this on another forum, plus on the News (foxnews of course)

Looks like some of the Bishops didnt take Cardinal Ratzingers paper on how to treat Pro-Death Politicians very seriously and just disregarded it.

One Bishop said that he listens to Rome and not Him.


I'll find the story and post it here.

On my website, I have a section for corrupt Churchs and Clergy.

I think its time to stand up and clean out the mediocrity thats in our Church.

I get so upset when I hear of things like this but theres not much that I can do alone. So on my site I ask for peoples help in reporting. Hammering the Bishops, Priests and even the Papal Nuncio with phone calls, letters, and emails to get it changed.

All else fails, we'll boycott the corrupt Church and stop tithing.

It was Pope Paul IV who said "The Smoke of Satan has entered the Church"

He was right.

Its time to Stand Up!! I know its important to defend our Church from corrupt and often misguided non-Catholics, but we need to clean house first.

The Bishops and Priests are too scared to do it, its up to us laymen to do it.

For example there is a Church ran by the Jesuits in Boston that holds a 'Gay Mass' and they also participate in the Gay Pride march, having CATHOLIC banners in this march and everything. Its sickening. No one is doing anything about it, they just set back.

Jesus turned over tables and was angry at them and casted them out of the temple because they were corrupting it. Righteous Anger.. Wheres ours?

Its time to stand up.

God Bless

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