Half Of Priest And Bishops Are Gay

[Guest]

The Vortex

 

Here’s the headline: As much as half of priests and bishops in the U.S. may be homosexual. Now the details.

 

Back in 2000, just as news of the homosexual priest sex abuse crisis was beginning to break, the  Kansas City Star did an in-depth exposé on a horrible topic: the large number of  homosexual priests dying of AIDS. The newspaper's reporting brought to public light, for the first time on this kind of scale, the issue of homosexuality in the priesthood — albeit through the tragic lens of AIDS.

 

The newspaper conducted extensive research into the related issues of AIDS and homosexuality within clerical ranks and religious communities. Far from denying the paper's stories, the bishop of Kansas City at the time, Raymond Boland, admitted the findings were true and said, "Much as we would regret it, it shows that human nature is human nature."

 

The issue of the AIDS death aside (God rest their souls), it reveals the reality of homosexuality in the ranks of the ordained — and not just its presence, but itsoverwhelming presence.

 

The same time the KC Star was publishing its series of reports, another report, much less known, was also being circulated, this time in private meetings in the Church. It was prepared by the National Federation of Priests' Councils, a group born from the liberal days of the Sexual Revolution in the wake of Vatican II.

 

In its 34 pages is a very vivid discussion of the AIDS crisis at the time among priests owing to the large number of homosexual men in the presbyterate. Its contents contain discussions of how each diocese and religious order should go about preparing for the financial strain of caring for so many priests with AIDS. It makes recommendations about whether to screen seminarians for HIV, a policy eventually adopted across the country. Experts in the field talk about the arrested psychosexual development of homosexual men in the seminary and the priesthood.

 

The research and investigations being conducted back in 2000, both from the clerical organization and secular media outlets, began unearthing disturbing parallels. Priests and even bishops were dying from AIDS at an alarming rate. In 1995, New York auxiliary bishop Emerson Moore died of AIDS in a Minnesota hospice. Across the country, estimates from assorted experts put the number of Catholic priests dying from the disease at as high as 1,000 in roughly a 10–15 year span. Numbers were showing that priests were becoming infected and dying at a rate of as high as 10 times the national average.

 

All this strongly suggested that the number of homosexual men in the Catholic priesthood was much higher than even the most suspicious had guessed. It wasn't long before the truth started coming out, tied as it was to the AIDS death news.

 

Numerous independent sources inside the Church began polling and interviewing and questioning and researching. Their results were jaw-dropping. One survey done by a New Jersey Franciscan priest and researcher revealed that 45 percent of 500 priests surveyed volunteered that they were gaym and that one in four of them had AIDS — proving a rampant promiscuity.

 

Over the years, a large number of surveys, polls and research have produced a wide range of estimates of the percentage of men in the ranks of the ordained who are homosexual: as low as 15 percent all the way up to 58 percent. That compares to the overall national percentage of about 1.5 percent.

 

Even if the lowball estimate of 15 percent of priests are gay is right, it would still be 10 times the national average. And if the high end is closer to reality, then over half of all men in the priesthood and episcopate are homosexual, and would represent a population almost 50 times the national average.

 

Where are we going with all this? Underscoring some of our reports from last week that the Church in America and other countries of the West is controlled by a homosexual collective — the most in-your-face example of which is the recent outlandish scandal and alleged cover-up in the archdiocese of New York.

 

The destruction rained down on innocent souls in the care of  Cdl. Timothy Dolan and his New York archdiocese chancery is shameful, scandalous and sinful — and it has happened as a result of one accused homosexual priest and the extensive cover-up and excusing of his actions by influential and high-ranking officials in the chancery and even inRome.

 

This week's "Mic'd Up" begins to unravel the cover-up and peer more closely at the civil case, ecclesiastical case as well as a potential criminal case which could bring this whole sordid mess crashing to a conclusion.

 

Here is the situation in a nutshell: The American Catholic Church is largely controlled by homosexual clergy and their allies. Those not in the network are powerless to confront it owing to its vast influence and fear factor, as well as not really understanding how it operates. The Catholic establishment media won't get within a million miles of this issue of the homosexual collective because they too are scared.

 

But you lay faithful and independent Catholic media outlets like Church Militant, as well as others, don't suffer from being wedded to the establishment. It's why we can pour resources into a story like the New York scandal and use it as a springboard to help you understand the even larger stakes involved. The power of this homosexual collective must be broken and the first step in that is exposing it. 

 

We invite you to view this week's "Mic'd Up"and watch the anatomy of a cover-up. Over the past half century, tens of thousands of homosexul men have been recruited and admitted into the priesthood. Many of them went on to be serial abusers. But others, large numbers of them, have used the Church as a means to deal with their own pyschosexual drama and laid waste to the faith of tens of millions in the process.

 

This evil must be dragged into the light and those responsible dealt with.

 

 

[HisChildForever]

Homosexuals do not lure and molest minors. So the opening statement "homosexual priest sex abuse crisis" is inaccurate. I would also like to see the author's sources. Moreover, HIV/AIDS is not spread solely through male homosexual relations. You can be born with it, catch it from an opposite sex partner, or get it from a dirty needle. The author is also assuming that homosexual equals practicing homosexual. Why the double standard that a heterosexual male can be chaste but a homosexual will likely succumb to his desires? Dumb.

[Basilisa Marie]

LOL this article is so ridiculously out of touch with reality. 

[bardegaulois]

It looks like we have some hard evidence now to back up the anecdotal evidence of the "Lavender Mafia." If you're incredible of the whole concept, I might advise thanking God that your diocese was spared their ravages.

[HisChildForever]

12 minutes ago, bardegaulois said:

It looks like we have some hard evidence now to back up the anecdotal evidence of the "Lavender Mafia." If you're incredible of the whole concept, I might advise thanking God that your diocese was spared their ravages.

Since when is Michael Voris "hard evidence"?

[bardegaulois]

2 minutes ago, HisChildForever said:

Since when is Michael Voris "hard evidence"?

Voris is just a journalist. The KC Star report and the NFPC report are the hard evidence. It's a pity that there are no links to these, because, frankly, I'd really like to go through them.

[Luigi]

I know or have known a fair number of gay priests. I know of a number who have died of AIDS. I used to know a guy (now dead of AIDS) who entered the seminary a year or two after high school - it was the mid-Sixties, he realized he was gay, he didn't want to be hounded about why he didn't have a girlfriend, and entering the seminary would bring honor and glory to the family. He left the seminary before he was ordained, but he told me that there was an undercurrent of homosexuality throughout the seminary; the seminarians were told repeatedly that the worst scandal they could bring to the Church was to get a woman pregnant. This guy said that "it was implied" that homosexuality was better than heterosexual activity. Now that look back on it, I think he might have been trying to intimate that homosexuality was more open than that in the seminary, but he didn't want to say it straight out that way. IDK. But he saw the priesthood as a safe place - you might say cover - for homosexuals.

I also knew a Methodist minister who came out of the closet. He was told, "Don't go to the park for a hookup - it's dangerous. Go to a gay bar." When he did, he encountered the associate pastor from his neighboring Catholic church, then the parish organist, then the parish pastor. He spoke to the pastor and said, "You guys could have a parish assembly in here!" The pastor looked around the bar and replied, "We could have a diocesan conclave!"

There are definitely a number of homosexual men in the presbyterate. I have no idea how many, or how to calculate it either. And even less idea of what to do about it. And even less idea than that of what kind of impact gay priests have had on their congregations - some are men of faith, some are celibate, some are good preachers, their masses & sacraments are all valid (I guess?). I just go to church and let God take care of the rest.

[Papist]

You lost me at "The Vortex"

[CatherineM]

As someone who was on the front lines of the epidemic back then, I remember it well. Lots of my AIDS clients were gay, but certainly not all. Of the priests I knew, one was gay and the other got it from a transfusion after a car wreck. Rushing to the hospital at 2am, he met a drunk driver on the wrong side of the road. 

If you want to start a nasty fight on here about homosexuals, pick something more recent. You could make the argument that the AIDS epidemic weeded all the gay priests out. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, CatherineM said:

 If you want to start a nasty fight on here about homosexuals, pick something more recent. 

Not trying to start a nasty fight. This was a new article by "Church Militant" in my news feed this a.m. I've wanted married Priest to be allowed for awhile now. I think it would help this problem greatly.

Edited January 11, 2016 by Guest

[PhuturePriest]

Church Militant's explanation to the modern Church is that every crisis is due to gay clergy. Ecumenism is soft, and softness is reserved for women and gay guys, therefore clergy in favor of ecumenism are gay. Anything remotely associated with "softness" is immediately indicative of being gay in their eyes.

Consequently, I wouldn't really put a whole lot of stock to anything CM has to say about gay people in general. A quick scroll through their news articles reveals 95% of their articles are about gay people, gay priests, or both, and all the horrible damage they do to the Church and the culture in general. They have an unhealthy obsession with it, in my opinion.

If a priest or bishop is orthodox and faithful to the Church and the promises they took, then in the words of the Holy Father, who am I to judge?

[HisChildForever]

19 minutes ago, Josh said:

Not trying to start a nasty fight. This was a new article by "Church Militant" in my news feed this a.m. I've wanted married Priest to be allowed for awhile now. I think it would help this problem greatly.

So...you believe that unmarried and chaste men are unable to control their sexual urges and will inevitably resort to raping children?

[Guest]

28 minutes ago, HisChildForever said:

So...you believe that unmarried and chaste men are unable to control their sexual urges and will inevitably resort to raping children?

I know it's not popular here but I think the Priest being gay had something to do with them molesting teenage boys. I honestly believe that. Not trying to anger anyone or troll. Guys who are attracted to women don't mess around with teenage boys. I don't buy that it had nothing to do with them being attracted to males and being gay. 

[Papist]

54 minutes ago, Josh said:

Not trying to start a nasty fight. This was a new article by "Church Militant" in my news feed this a.m. I've wanted married Priest to be allowed for awhile now. I think it would help this problem greatly.

I am very curious to hear how a priest's sexual desire for adolescent boys goes away by simply being married to a woman? 

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Papist said:

I am very curious to hear how a priest's sexual desire for adolescent boys goes away by simply being married to a woman? 

Most and I stress the word MOST men who are married to woman (attracted to women) aren't attracted to any males whether they are boys or teenage boys. Or adults. I'm from the Midwest. That's the way it is here. Maybe it's different other places.