MarysLittleFlower Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Tomorrow is the day of obligation feast of Mary Mother of God (here in Canada). Its also a Friday. So do we eat meat or not? (I follow the no meat on Friday traditional practice instead of substituting penances). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 The Church has proclaimed that we can fast on anything we so choose or do some other form of penance or works of Charity. Though Saint Paul does state in Holy Scripture that fasting off meat and alcohol is the best kind of fast and Abel fasted off meat, just so you know not that you did or didnt already. luv yah. Hope that helps. GodblesS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not The Philosopher Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 It's a solemnity so I assume that the penitential character of Friday is lifted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Not The Philosopher said: It's a solemnity so I assume that the penitential character of Friday is lifted. Are we exempt from fasting on a solemnity? I don't even know what is meant by solemnity, please illuminate me. Catholic with L plates on even after 13 years practicing 'The way' though 7 years of that have been trapped in a sluggish dark night of the soul where the growth of this branch of the vine has been agonisingly slow. Edited December 31, 2015 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not The Philosopher Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 21 minutes ago, Tab'le De'Bah-Rye said: Are we exempt from fasting on a solemnity? I don't even know what is meant by solemnity, please illuminate me. Catholic with L plates on even after 13 years practicing 'The way' though 7 years of that have been trapped in a sluggish dark night of the soul where the growth of this branch of the vine has been agonisingly slow. A solemnity is the highest kind of feast day. Christmas is a solemnity, as is Easter and others. Because they are times for rejoicing, Solemnities cancel Friday penances when they fall on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) Oh okay. A missionary brother once rebuked me for fasting on a sunday. Is it the same for sundays? And what if one wants to do a 40 day fast, if your not under holy orders surely your conscience and Gods assumed will dictates whether you can or can't fast on particular days. Edited December 31, 2015 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 We are in the octave of Christmas which is an eight day solemnity, plus Jan 1st the solemnity of Mary Mother of God. Its been party time this whole time no fasting or abstinance required! Fasting or abstaining on a solemnity is like fasting or abstaining on Easter Sunday! Christmas and Easter being the two greatest solemnities in the liturgical calendar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarysLittleFlower Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 Thank you for the replies! So if I understand we *don't* fast or abstain tomorrow? 1 hour ago, Tab'le De'Bah-Rye said: Oh okay. A missionary brother once rebuked me for fasting on a sunday. Is it the same for sundays? And what if one wants to do a 40 day fast, if your not under holy orders surely your conscience and Gods assumed will dictates whether you can or can't fast on particular days. Yes its the same as Sundays. I was told the Church actually forbids us to fast on Sunday so we are under obedience to the Church in this if you fast for 40 days just leave out Sundays or major solemnities like days of obligation. That's what we do in Lent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 ok thanks mary's little flower i will take this into consideration and ask for further clarification from a few different priests. Are you sure that the forbondance is not only for those under holy orders, sometimes we make the mistake of discerning some church documents as pertaining to the layity when it is strictly for holy orders. Happy new year all. Good night and GodblesS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarysLittleFlower Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 18 minutes ago, Tab'le De'Bah-Rye said: ok thanks mary's little flower i will take this into consideration and ask for further clarification from a few different priests. Are you sure that the forbondance is not only for those under holy orders, sometimes we make the mistake of discerning some church documents as pertaining to the layity when it is strictly for holy orders. Happy new year all. Good night and GodblesS. No I was told its for all. No one fasts on Sundays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NadaTeTurbe Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 17 hours ago, MarysLittleFlower said: Thank you for the replies! So if I understand we *don't* fast or abstain tomorrow? Yes its the same as Sundays. I was told the Church actually forbids us to fast on Sunday so we are under obedience to the Church in this if you fast for 40 days just leave out Sundays or major solemnities like days of obligation. That's what we do in Lent But is it okay to not eat meat on sundays because you just don't want to ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 You can eat the bacon double cheeseburger without hesitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardegaulois Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 8 hours ago, NadaTeTurbe said: But is it okay to not eat meat on sundays because you just don't want to ? That's like asking if one should eat meat every day. On certain days I don't eat meat, but not out of any intention. Rather, it's because other dishes seemed more appealing to me. Should I consider that day a day of penitential character? No, because I didn't have the intention not to eat meat; it's just how the day turned out. So if you're invited to a vegetarian relation's house for Sunday dinner and thus dine on a meatless dish, it's not really an act of abstinence because there was no intention to abstain and thus do penance. Likewise, if you're tired on a Sunday evening and just make a bowl of pasta because it is easy, then it can't really be abstinence either because you didn't form the intention. It was once explained to me that in generally morally neutral acts, like what one eats for the day, it's not the act itself but the intention behind the act that really makes the difference. So abstaining as an act of penance and in deference to a precept of the Church is rather different than abstaining because you haven't been grocery shopping in a while. I hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not A Real Name Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 8 hours ago, Papist said: You can eat the bacon double cheeseburger without hesitation. Add extra bacon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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