IgnatiusofLoyola Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 3 hours ago, Papist said: Don't see the similarity. Sorry. No. I did not say I tell them what to do. No. I do not go on and on, and I don't bring it up again, even year after year, I do not bring it up. Brought up in 2003, and don't need to bring it up again. Yes. We went on and had a great beach trip and still do every year. "The best witness is to live a happy, loving, caring, humble life." I believe Christ is calling me to do more. I'm sorry--I should never post when I'm feeling cranky. I had to have a fasting blood test this morning, and my blood sugar was dropping rapidly which made me cranky and kept me from writing clearly. You can come to my beach house any time. (Easy for me to say when I'm virtually sure I will never rent a beach house, much less own one. But if I did, you would be welcome.) I probably should have posted something closer to, "The best witness FOR ME is when a person simply lives their life in line with their religious beliefs, while remaining caring about others and humble about themselves." But even then, someone could pick that sentence apart easily. I wrote it in 5 minutes--it would be different if it were part of a blog, or paper, or book, which I had had a chance to think about for awhile and edit. Final note: NONE of these comments are directed at you specifically--I should have made that clearer before. I hardly know you. I'm reacting to others, mainly my family, including my Catholic convert aunt who truly did do a lot of good works and gave a lot of her time to others, but unfortunately talked (okay, bragged) too much about all the good things she was doing, the amount of time she spent at Mass, in prayer, etc., and eagerly made "suggestions" about how others should live good lives. Because of her (ironically, she was one of my Godparents), and others in my family, I have a hard time with people who don't know me very well (my family has lived 2,000 miles away for 30+ years) telling me what would be best for me. Actually, most of the people I know (in person and online) who are both living their faith fully without apology and also being caring, humble, and not giving advice unless asked, are all nuns/Religious Sisters. Probably the reason I hang around VS so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 4 hours ago, Papist said: Don't see the similarity. Sorry. The elder brother is acting self-righteous. He failed to understand the grace of God and failed to comprehend the meaning of forgiveness. i see a lot of similarities, the couple in (non practicing Catholics) question were lost... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 14 hours ago, little2add said: The elder brother is acting self-righteous. He failed to understand the grace of God and failed to comprehend the meaning of forgiveness. i see a lot of similarities, the couple in (non practicing Catholics) question were lost... So...instructing the ignorant (see spiritual works of mercy) is self-righteous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The Catholic Church has standards and requirements for worthy reception of sacraments. Charitably pointing out the requirements and standards is not being self righteous. Would someone eat at a restaurant that played fast and loose with food safety standards? Is the health inspector being self righteous? No because we understand physical illness and the causes and preventative measures of that. In the spiritual realm things seem to be taken more lightly sometimes as the consequences arent always as quick and obvious as the misery of food poisoning. We must educate ourselves and with kindness pass that info along to others to aid them in their spiritual well being. If someone has been away from teh Church and wants to worthily receive Communion then why not go to Confession first? Its a wonderful sacrament that people seem to want to avoid like the plague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, Papist said: So...instructing the ignorant (see spiritual works of mercy) is self-righteous? The picture of the father receiving the son back into relationship is a picture of how we should respond to repentant sinners. how is returning to the church (in this small way) ignorant? its a start! Edited January 6, 2016 by little2add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 22 minutes ago, little2add said: The picture of the father receiving the son back into relationship is a picture of how we should respond to repentant sinners. how is returning to the church (in this small way) ignorant? its a start! nvm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 IDK " if two non practicing Catholics want to get married in the Church? For example if the parents want it." I would view it as a good thing, but thats just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 If people who have bad driving habits and thus a bad driving record want to get behind the wheel again thats fine by me. They still have to deal with the consequences of their previous actions though such as speeding tickets, fines, demerits costly vehicle repairs and so forth. If people want to drive they need to abide by certain rules, if people want to call themselves Catholic same deal, follow the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 6 hours ago, vee said: If people who have bad driving habits and thus a bad driving record want to get behind the wheel again thats fine by me. They still have to deal with the consequences of their previous actions though such as speeding tickets, fines, demerits costly vehicle repairs and so forth. If people want to drive they need to abide by certain rules, if people want to call themselves Catholic same deal, follow the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Papist said: perspective means everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 4 hours ago, little2add said: perspective means everything It's disturbing to me that you seem to think Eucharist is some kind of treat God wants to dole out to those He "loves." When we receive the Eucharist, we say "Amen." Amen, I believe what the Church proposes - that this is the Body and Blood of Christ. Amen, my partaking of this Host is a symbol of my Communion with the Church. Saying "Amen" when you are not in Communion is a LIE before God and men. Receiving Communion when you are not in Communion is a LIE before God and men. My friends and family are honest upright people. They would never want to present themselves as something they are not. I don't think its love to let your friends unwittingly make liars of themselves in public. Most of my friends and family cannot receive the Eucharist for one reason or another, and God does not love them less and I do not love them less. Shame on you for suggesting otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little2add Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 41 minutes ago, Lilllabettt said: Shame on you for suggesting otherwise. i'm weak my brothers is too shame on me shame on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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